REAL TALK: FACT=Brook Quit, Fact=Brook is a Quitter, he's still a tough bloke and no coward!!!

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  1. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Even amongst those definitions Kell still stands to be a quitter, there are surely better and more apt definitions on the web.

    Well at least we agree he quit, job half done!
     
  2. Drachenorden

    Drachenorden Active Member Full Member

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    Glass chin probably actually saves you from extra punishment. I think it's better to get KOd like Khan than suffer prolonged beatings.
     
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  3. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    How would you describe a guy who lost his pen when given the fight he had asked for?.........would he be some form of coward?...... how would YOU describe such a man?
     
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  4. Steven.Jackson

    Steven.Jackson Mr. Chicken Full Member

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    How is this even up for debate? Kell Brook quit, get over it.
     
  5. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    So in summary you are saying he chose to stop - you use the word 'quit' but specifically point out with no negative connotation - but are equally clear he's not a coward. So in order: Yes, he chose to stop, yes his injury left him with little choice and yes, he's not a coward. You summed it up pretty well. Unless you're gonna roll out the subtext now?
     
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  6. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Wow you've really been on one this morning.

    You created not one but TWO Brook "quit" threads

    You also post stuff like the following, also today:

    You've even gone so far as to change your avatar to Brook to make it look like you're at least trying to be subjective, but failing miserably. Troll is troll.

    We get it, you really don't like Brook because you're the only Eubank fan on the forum. We get it you don't like Brook because he had the stones to fight GGG where as your fighter QUIT before the fight was even signed.

    @CST80 how is this guy any different from Shockmaster or Dino? At least Dino posted some decent stuff from time to time but this guy is an outright troll who adds no value to the forum other than trying to goad people into arguing. Time to exercise quality control.
     
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  7. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Keyboard warriors calling fighters cowards and quitters.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Roberto Duran, Mike Tyson and Vitali Klitschko are also quitters according to this definition. Brook is in good company.
     
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  9. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    He quit, yes. But he's not a quitter. Definition below

    He didn't give up easily, he could no longer continue. I mean technically he could but he'd lose like 90% of his effectiveness as vision is one of the most important things in combat. Not a coward, not a quitter. Though he did quit.... strange I know but "quitter" implies he lacks courage or determination.
     
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  10. juice20

    juice20 Active Member Full Member

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    This. The connotation that the word quitter carries is different than the act of quitting here, when you consider context. Words matter. He did quit, yet did not display the behaviours of a quitter. Quitter is synonymous with other descriptors like wimp, coward, chicken.
     
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  11. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    So I commented after reading the OP, then read the comments. We posted the exact same thing.

    Great minds...
     
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  12. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Have you ever seen the documentary "Fight Of Their Lives"? It's about the Benn Vs McClellan fight, if you haven't seen it go on YouTube and watch it.

    Anyway, in that fight McClellan was seriously damaged, he got a blood clot on the brain and is very lucky to be alive but he is now blind, practically deaf, brain damaged and needs constant care.

    My point being, in the final round of the fight McClellan took a knee twice, the second time he didn't rise to his feet until after the count and Jim Watt on commentary was shouting "He has quit Reg, He has quit Reg".

    Jim Watt got a lot of stick for saying it at the time, obviously after the seriousness of the injury was known.

    Now to everybody there that night and everybody watching at home it looked like McClellan just took a knee and quit, it looked like he didn't want it anymore, little did anybody know what damaged had happened.

    McClellan stood up after the count and walked back to his corner and seconds later collapsed.

    Now in your opinion should McClellan have fought until he just collapsed and died in the ring?

    Because McClellan obviously felt something was wrong and stopped fighting, is that a quit job?

    Brook had his orbital bone broken, was punched in the face for another 12 minutes knowing (because he has had the injury before) he could end up losing the sight in his eye.

    Just think about that for a second, he fought for 12 minutes knowing there was a serious risk of losing his sight.

    And you come on here and call him a "quitter" and dig him out, you are a total disgrace and it is very obvious you have never boxed or even stepped in a ring.
     
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  13. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    If you want to talk technicality, Brook did not quit against GGG. His corner stopped the fight.
     
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  14. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thank you
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Criticizing fighters for being quitters and quitting just perpetuates the stigma that quitting is a cowardly thing to do. It's this exact same stigma that compels the likes of Magomed Abdusalamov and many of these other fighters whose lives (and the lives of their families) have been utterly destroyed or taken from them to not throw in the towel for fear of being ridiculed or labeled a quitter when they absolutely should have.

    I'm not risking losing my sight or ending up a bed-ridden vegetable for the rest of my days, or going to an early grave if I have sustained a serious injury that could greatly increase the likelihood of one of those things happening to me or have taken a bad beating and cannot see any way back or I just cannot summon the strength to keep on going just in order to satiate the blood lust of boxing fans. Screw that. I'd fight on for as long as I felt I could and try my best, but if I was seriously concerned something terrible was about to befall me or I'd suffered an injury that could seriously affect my health or put an end to my career I'd pull out.

    I have immense respect fighters who battle back from adversity and injury, but by the same token I respect the decisions of fighters that decide enough is enough after they've suffered serious injury or have taken a beating and feel like they just can't go on any longer or take any more punishment.