Why Pacquiao will always be greater than Floyd

Head to head Floyd will always be a nightmare for Pac being bigger and a fast counter puncher with great defense.
I will not comment on the steroid part as nothing was ever proven. All the belts and championship fights he had from fly, superbantam, feather and superfeather are all legit.
Pac is already a deadset ATG even if he retires before the Diaz fight. Mind you, that's in 2008. All the things he achieved after that is gravy. And to think he still hold a belt at 147 in 2017..
Anyway, I have no problem with people who want to rank Floyd higher. It's certainly debatable.

 

i see pac higher in atg rankings. where he started, who he beat, and how he beat them, puts him ahead in my estimation. i think floyd lands in the handful of men that make up the greatest defensive fighters ever, but as a complete fighting machine that could reach the top in any age, its pac for me.

 

I think Freddy said it himself that when May-Pac fought it was Manny's best chance at winning. I feel a prime Floyd at 140 would be a nightmare for a prime Pac at 140.

 

H2H it's not even an argument. Also let's look at the styles of opponents. Floyd is more adaptive to all styles where as it concerns Pacquiao, he's a fish out of water when faced against certain styles.

Manny fought guys, let's face it, when it was most opportune and with dehabilitating specifications in place worse than Floyd did. This goes as far back as Morales. When a fight was more 50-50 he had more trouble that led to "L"s even from the likes of Bradley. He never got over the JMM hump and he fell short too many times.

People always try to act like popularity contests work and count but they don't. Floyd was known longer than Manny over a span of longevity and it especially doesn't help Manny was always held to a lower standard.

You can't echo chamber an alternate reality. Floyd is currently greater and more relevant than Manny right now and it will never change. Floyd has more money and even today Roach yesterday is still hopeful for a rematch and Manny does his fair share of begging as well. The only reason Manny got to the point he did was because he was the anti-Floyd. He maybe sold a couple of good ppvs on his own. His 2 best being with Oscar and Hatton probably. Floyd was consistently outselling him with guys like Ortiz and The ghost at a higher selling price per ppv.

MGM actually hung up banners over the casino promoting Floyd and it caused Bob to lose his mind. Why, because the money never lies and hype only gets you so far. Let's even look at Manny's fan base. Are they truly Manny fans or Floyd haters. There's a big difference and there's only like a couple of true Manny fans left on the board when there use to be an army of them sporting the same avy.

Tinman is the only one I respect. He took his lumps and still is ride and die. The rest, I question.

Manny's excuses will not help him either. He has a whole career of too many of them that are just asinine and sorry, when looked objectively and also considering the "fact" that even Roach and Ariza admitted they ducked Floyd the first time around negating the if "they fought 5 years ago" ploy not to mention they fight broke all records, there's no good footing really for Manny's case at all.

And do we really want to mention cheating people? You guys hold onto IV fluid but Floyd was consistently the same Floyd for a very long time and you can perceive his natural decline over the years.

Manny's career on the other hand makes no logical sense as far as guys he destroyed and then guys he had trouble against.

Some of you hate him but even Pauly and other fighters have mentioned Manny's multiple primes.

It was being talked about that Manny was going to retire after JMM fight 2 and then he explodes on the scene again.

Floyd has this argument won on all fronts and it's a one sided affair just like when they actually fought with Manny winning a few rounds at best.

Floyd>Manny. Let this horse die in peace.

 

read a couple lines. so much to say is just wasted when said in that fanboy tone, because it taints any truthful argument you might have.

 

Sure. It's not for everyone but the truth is and always will be Floyd>Manny however you want to cut it.

 

thats what i mean, right there. you cant even bring yourself to say its your opinion, you got to stress it like its an irrefutable fact... it aint. i didnt read your whole post, but i bet its slanted all to one side with not an ounce of credit given to manny for anything. if im wrong, i apologize.

 

It is but so is reality. It is fact.

 

if youre smart, and you get to live as long as i have, and you actually went out and did some real living, you learn to easily recognize what fear and overcompensation look like.

 

That's the whole point. People can't handle the cold hard truth. I'm not so young myself. Floyd is indeed greater than Manny. You can like a guy more but Floyd even turned haters to work for him and put their money in his pocket. Manny had a small loyal following but mostly Floyd haters supporting him who jumped off as soon as Manny could not deliver.

Now I got a guy like you assuming I've never lived, am scared and overcompensating because I'm telling it just like it is.

Im not judging you over this boxing matter. It's undeniable fact Floyd is greater than Manny. Nothing fanboy about it. The sky is also blue, not purple unless you're here in AZ.

But if we want to attack eachother. You seem like a typical emotional hater like a female who lets her feelings get the best of her and cloud her logic and judgement. Instead of attacking me and assuming no relevant bs like I've never lived my life, present your case or gladly **** off if you don't mind and go reminense on Manny's glory days I guess because they have been far gone for a long time now.

Floyd>Manny

 

thats why i wrote, "if youre smart". some people live long lives never even fully seeing the obviousness of sarcasm, much less the subtleties of small psychological patterns.
now youre reinforcing my observations by acting exactly like someone who is insecure and needs to overcompensate for what he knows is lacking. if you thought what you are writing was true, and known to be true, you would not need to get upset and defensive, because you would know that im wrong and everyone can see that im wrong, and the truth is making me look like a jackass.
i dont think youve lived as much as you think you have.

 

PAC wanting to get in with a bigger Floyd after being ktfo by a bigger JMM is why PAC is so incredible.

That's the fighting spirit which we fans love so much.

 

That's great. Happy for your ability but you been off topic for multiple posts now. Still waiting for a case why Manny is greater or you want to continue armchair. I sense a scaredy cat....

 

actually, my very first post stated my case without all the fanboy twat cream on it.

 

PAC is a Bum of the highest order. Lucky punch, I thought I won, Gays are worse than animals.