Charles - Layne 2: Was Dempsey in the tank ?

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Been reading a bit about the outcry over Dempsey's one man selection for Utah based Layne in Utah over Charles. Is it possible the Mauler was a little dicey here ?
     
  2. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Well....let's see the last 300 times you brought this fight up. Articles were produced that gave a round by round and were fair to Layne. Some were convinced by this, some were not. Your opinion always swayed by the context of the Maricano argument. If someone was building up Charles...he lost to Layne. If someone was building up Layne...he lost to Charles. Are you expecting something different?
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Anyone other than this turd ?
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    It was certainly a curious score card,wasnt Layne a one time protégé of Dempsey's?
    ps Don't take any notice of Mongoose.
     
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    No wonder .. what happened ? He got kicked off again and had to reboot with another name ?
     
  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    No wonder .. what happened ? He got kicked off again and had to reboot with another name ? Still a punk, starting **** for no reason I see.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah he hates my guts because he tried to get me banned and failed, questioned my sexual preferences and called me a pa*d*phile the guys a C**T. Not worth worrying about.
     
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  8. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Most of us have had moments we're likely not proud of but the mere fact that I have not heard from him in years and he starts off with a needless nasty response pretty much defines that sap.
     
  9. Legend X

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    I haven't seen the fight.
    I don't think the consensus was too far off what Dempsey had. Everyone seemed to agree it was close. Dempsey possibly just had the courage (or lack of) to call 7 rounds even because they were close, from what I remember.
     
  10. choklab

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    I don't think anyone convincingly beat Charles (beyond dispute) including Walcott, between his knockout loss to Walcott and facing Marciano. Charles really was a great heavyweight.
     
  11. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I'm a huge Charles fan .. to me he's one of the very best pound for pound fighters that ever lived .. right up there w Langford, Greb and Robinson for sure ..
     
  12. Seamus

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    This one stunk to high hell. 7 rounds even? Refereeing your own protege?
     
  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Fantastic fighter. I rate him above Holyfield at heavyweight. It was only really special fighters that beat him convincingly.
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Great fighter , but not a great heavyweight imo.
     
  15. Legend X

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    Unless you've seen the fight or have clear evidence suggesting those 7 rounds weren't close, I'm not sure 7 rounds even can be condemned out of hand. But then, I'm favourable towards even rounds. I never understoood the problem some people have with scoring even rounds, to the point they'd rather see (on others' scorecards) the close rounds scored for the fighter they have losing the round. Makes no sense.

    Was Layne really Dempsey's protege ?