Is Tyson clearly hurt?

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Is Tyson

Poll closed Jun 2, 2017.
  1. Clearly Lands to Head, Clearly Hurt

    7 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Clearly Lands to Head, Not Clearly Hurt

    5 vote(s)
    35.7%
  3. Neither Clear

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It does land on his head then first then slides of it on to the shoulder area, watch the clip from the start.
     
  2. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His initial reaction is blocked, but that isn't necessary when he's still looking dazed and confused 1 second later. You can visibly see Tyson confused after he gets hit and Holy spins away. He looks out of sorts and is already falling to the side (off balance) before Holy gives him a little shove. He was clearly disoriented.
     
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  3. The Kentucky Cobra

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    Given the punch conclusively did not land, the disorientation can be attributed to Evander suddenly spinning behind him and pushing him.
     
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    Fascinating. Deny to the end.
     
  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only thing fascinating is how you can't see the punch have an effect on Tyson.
     
  6. KuRuPT

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    You're being disingenuous now Cobra, and you're better than that. You cut this clip SHORT of where it NEEDED to be. I clearly saw in the first videos it grazed his shoulder first, BUT THEN, you can visibly see it striking Tyson's head after. It was a chopping sort of punch. Yes it hit his shoulder, we all saw that, but it clearly went on to hit his head. How hard, how knows. Maybe he wasn't dazed but he visibly appears to be. If it was from Holy's movement or the punch I don't know, but he was. You're better than this cropping of a video Cobra.
     
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    If go to the trouble and show the complete motion, will you apologize and admit to being wrong? The punch grazes below Tyson's jaw.
     
  8. Wass1985

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    I don't even think it hit the shoulder first but even if it did graze the shoulder first so what, it still landed near the temple and it still stunned him for a second or two.

    Watch the punch in real time and you will see it's a hard shot made even worse by Tyson's momentum.
     
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    The full motion..the punch slides under Tyson's chin, palm up.

    https://streamable.com/h8vys
     
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    You can see the point of impact where his head shifts to the right, why can't you give it up and be a man?
     
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    In full motion you are using imagination to feel in the gaps too fast for your eyes. Stop motion forces you to focus on the image. The punch hits shoulder and slides beneath Tyson's turned head palm up.

    https://streamable.com/h8vys
     
  12. KuRuPT

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    If I don't see it land sure.. but you were blatantly disingenuous here with how your cropped that video... so will an apology be forthcoming for that? Let me know...
     
  13. KuRuPT

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    Yes you can see the punch, as you say, hit (graze) his chin. The adjective doesn't matter here, but as you even admit.. it "grazed" his chin. By definition then, it landed correct?
     
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    It hits Mike's glove, and knocks his arm down.
     
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    I was not disingenuous. I was emphasizing the point of impact, but if Evander's palm up glove knocking into Tyson's glove after the fact is necessary there you go...

    Like I said it grazed Tyson's neck and shoulder, missing his head.