Andre 'No VADA' Ward Acne

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  1. bw51

    bw51 Active Member Full Member

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    Fair, but I just rewatched the fight on the below vid bc i didn't want bias commentary...

    Rd 1: 10-9 Kov
    Rd2: 10-8 Kov
    Rd3: 10-10
    Rd 4: 10-9 Kov
    Rd 5: 10-9 Kov
    Rd 6: 10-9 Kov
    Rd 7: 10-10
    Rd 8: 10-9 Kov

    I stopped scoring after 8 bc at this point ward is too far behind. Fight was a robbery. I am a black american in case anyone wondered. Trying to be as unbiased as possible. If the judging is fairer next time, I say Kov wins even if Ward is using PEDs as kov's style is all wrong for ward

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  2. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Povetkin NEVER failed a drug test, his levels were indicative of trace amounts that fell withing the minimum standards allowed.

    I use PED's so what? Like you keep reminding everyone i am 44 and use them for general health purposes and to continue withstanding the rigors of my personal training and the lofty standards I set for myself. Quite a bit different than two combat athletes, where one is permitted to use whatever they wish while the other is severely limited by the sports most advanced testing protocols.

    Same deal with GGG/jacobs where GGG under went year round VADA and jacobs only signed up for VADA three weeks out from the fight and there is no evidence he was even tested once. Kovalev is being set up and subjected to some of the most vile discrimination in existence and your are gleefully going for the ride out of some misplaced persecution complex and since of entitlement.
     
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  3. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    How long have you been watching boxing? You seem like a reasonable person. Not trying to attack you.
     
  4. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I knew Kov was losing this decision as soon as I saw that Byrd was officiating. Tony Weeks is a huge improvement (better than bayless, he's the best in the business)

    However, Kov will beat that ass a second time and lose another UD. 100%.

    Vegas judges are Clinton voting limousine liberals, and grandfathered into these sweet jobs they've got (look at all the $hit women judges - all gifted these jobs). They hate russia, russians, and badasses like sergey kovalev.

    He's going to pound this kid out (again) but the steroids will allow him to finish on his feet. Expect scores like 118-110 or 117-111.
     
  5. bw51

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    I finished the rest of the fight. Rds 9-12, I gave to Ward. So 6-4 to KovAlev, with the KD..i had him winning by 3 points

    Kov lost a pep in his step then ward teed off

    As mentioned previously, I was an amateur boxer in NYC in early 2000s..
     
  6. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It's in the same genre. Unless the blood test comes back positive, then it's just white noise. If back texture could detect PED use with high specificity, nobody would waste their time with blood and urine.
     
  7. bw51

    bw51 Active Member Full Member

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    Another black american who thinks ward lost the fight

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  8. bw51

    bw51 Active Member Full Member

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    Lol, bless your cotton socks...only if you knew that

    1.) Athletes can beat the tests, ie lance armstrong
    2.) They pay people off
     
  9. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    yes, there's PED usage, no it's not reliably detected with back photos, nipple size, suspicious milk shakes, or IVs. It's detected with blood tests.
     
  10. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That's a non-sequitur -- how does it relate to what I said?
     
  11. bw51

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    LOL, bless your cotton sock.....only if you knew that

    1.) Athletes can beat the tests, ie Lance armstrong
    2.) They pay people off
     
  12. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Lots of people thought Kovalev won, but your scorecard is preposterous, nobody (e.g. on press row) gave Kovalev every round. Nobody.

    Mayweather is entirely self-serving. He doesn't like Andre Ward because he was a competitor and potential "heir apparent" who also happened to scoop up Shakur Stevenson and send him to Top Rank.
     
  13. bw51

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    I am not an expert in this field but for one to take a view on the original question he asked you, that involves understanding how using an IV was made illegal by WADA unless there was a medical reason bc the IV dilute the blood concentration making it harder to detect Testosterone to epitesterone ratios when one used PEDs.

    I would say do some futher research on it, in depth
     
  14. bw51

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    I gave ward the last 4....see above
     
  15. Cafe

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    If someone declines VADA testing the first thing I'd do is just go for the same route and shoot roids up my ass, if I know I'm getting cheated may as well cheat myself. Make it an even playground.
     
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