How many HW champions meet U.S. Army weight requirements?

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I've always assumed that people in my generation were getting bigger. That growth does seem to have slowed down a lot.

    I want to look more into this.

    Funny how that graph has Americans shrinking. I wonder why that is, if it's true.
     
  2. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It's always been due to design, imo.
    Either a good boxer is trained to modify his weight (gain or trim) OR large men are trained to box. That's design, both ways.
    There's obviously some sort of continuum bridging those extremes.

    Most the great heavyweights put on weight effectively at points in their careers. It's not new, in my opinion.
     
  3. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    They're not sure why Americans are shrinking, but their best bets are bad nutrition for poor Americans and short immigrants moving in.
     
  4. McGrain

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    The most likely reason seems to be the establishment of democracy and the resultant trickle down of wealth. This is only a theory but it seems to be favoured at the moment. It does make some sense; it seems the results take a generation or two to see the affects and here we have a bunch of ex-Soviet/eastern block heavies who have emerged a couple of generations after glasnost etc.
     
  5. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Could be a wrong interpretation but this seems to be a good explanation for why others "caught up" to Americans. But not as to why Americans are showing decreasing average in height.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    If the theory is true, the explanation would be that wealth is no longer trickling down in the way expected in a liberal democracy.

    Which does kind of jive with a wider political argument that exists at a moment. As an idea, that's out of reach for me at the moment though.
     
  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    By trickle down wealth, do you mean an increasing global economy, and widespread rise of wealth across many nations? If so, then I completely agree.

    This is getting really off topic, but when I hear trickle down, it sounds like old wealth distributed in new ways.
    Whereas it seems like new wealth is being generated through global trade and innovation.
     
  8. McGrain

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    It means people in a given country, for example Holland, having access to wealth they did not previously have access to. The end of peasantry etc.
     
  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Yeah, that makes sense.
    And if people are fed properly they will more likely reach their physical potential.
     
  10. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This thread made me laugh. Thanks
     
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  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Huh?
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I missed this treasure of a line.

    The exact same thing is professed by flat-earthers, evolution-deniers and those who perpetrate the "unpopular opinion" that the moon landings were fake.

    I will suggest that this is not a coincidence.
     
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  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Missed the chart but I assume it would be due primarily to the explosion of immigration from "shorter" countries in Latin America.
     
  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    You are suggesting I am a flat earther? That would be convenient wouldn't it. You can't "blow my ideas out of the water" so I must be idiotic. A fool of a man in a rain coat, perhaps spotting trains, drooling at the mouth..

    You still haven't given me an explanation as to why old heavyweight champions predominately fell within Army requirements.
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'm suggesting it is inevitable you would respond to this post, dealing in generalities, rather than the one that specifically rejects something you previously stated as fact with empirical data over an hour ago.

    So it proved to be.

    Yes, I have absolutely no interest or opinion in this subject. It means nothing to me. It is literally no different to a poster suggesting that in the years that HW champions over 6'2 died there was a particularly good yield of lemons and other citrus fruit.
     
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