Why Pacquiao will always be greater than Floyd

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by miniq, May 31, 2017.


  1. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So I just posted a bunch of facts and this is what you reply with? You're not capable of a normal debate or conversation about a boxer so you don't need to be on a boxing forum...
     
  2. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Facts ??? lol pure unadulterated bull feces
     
  3. titanic

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    Although I disagree (Pac should have won via SD for being the aggressor + was able to hurt Floyd in 4th) , I like your reasoning. It's fair.
     
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  4. Ant Sutton

    Ant Sutton I love boxing Full Member

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    In I think 2 or 3 round...PAC had Floyd on the ropes. PAC was landing and Floyd was grinning (which 9 times out of ten means you hurt me).
    I've never seen PAC back up and bring it back to the centre. He didn't do that with Morales - and no one in their right mind can say Morales can't bang!

    It was perplexing! Was it his shoulder? Nerves? He felt Floyds counter punch? I'd appreciate your opinion.
     
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  5. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    It's widely seen that Floyd and USADA have a mutually beneficial business relationship.
     
  6. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Please feel free to point out what was not true about my post.. Like I said before...... There's plenty of proof since it was only 7 years ago, so if you make a mistake, you have to pay...:biggrin:
     
  7. FuMaster

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    They're numbskulls is all. We had a thread the other day of Ward being a PED user and the usual pro-VADA users chimed in saying he was suspicious. Ironically, Ward has voluntarily tested more times under VADA than most fighters. USADA and VADA are roughly the same. The fact is, USADA has caught more cheat across sports than VADA. Haters just like to highlight VADA when it suits their argument.
     
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  8. M.3

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    Everyone who beats or challenge their favorite is cheating.. Mayweather, Marquez, Ward, and even Jacobs.. Then they forget they said Floyd used random drug testing to duck Pac and said let the commission do their job.. Now random drug testing is a regular thing, and I'm crazy for giving Floyd credit for it because now he's a drug cheat too..lol And of course he's the only boxer with money to afford to pay everyone off, so that's their proof.. It's crazy...lol
     
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  9. mandatory

    mandatory Nuthugger Crusher Full Member

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    I just cant see this since Pac lost to Floyd.. I understand acomplishments and all that when it comes to legacy but the truth is pac cannot be better than floyd if he lost and he did lose... Just my point of view.. and I know all the talk on PEDS but until we see proof we cannot accuse anyone of anything.. By doing so were only damaging the sport we all love...
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Why do you keep harping on "Floyd pays everyone off " ?? LOL Ive never ever suggested that, Floyd is just a PAWN in the NSAC/Vegas conspiracy as I see it, He is the cash cow. He is a very talented boxer that REALLY COuLD be one of the ATG's but lacked the fighting heart needed. NSAC/Vegas knew this from early on They figured, & were right on the money, that If Floyd kept on winning & by him fighting ONLY in Vegas,they could ensure that he would keep on winning. Vegas has made $ multi million $ out of this set up
    THAT is why Floyd has an 0 he really doesn't deserve BLATANT CORRUPTION !THAT IS MY OWN PERSONAL 0PINION. I may well be wrong but have NOT seen anything that make me think so
     
  11. M.3

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    smh Him paying everyone off makes more sense than this.. You'd think they would do this for more than just Floyd on the history of boxing then.. There has never been a bigger money maker in boxing as big as Floyd and none on the horizon.. If what you believe is true, they would condition a plethora of "cash cows" to keep the milk flowing and not just rely on one ageing one that retired Scott free and left them nothing...
     
  12. BlizzyBlizz

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  13. titanic

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    Correct you are.
    I think it's Pac's Nerves based on his lost to JMM. After that KO, his aggressiveness wasn't the same as before. He didn't wanna be countered anymore while attacking.
    That's why imo, the fight should have happened on or before his fight with Cotto. Then we would have seen Pac's real attacking aggressiveness.
     
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  14. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even still, any fight between Floyd and Pac has to take note of the size difference. Pacquiao is the significantly smaller man.
     
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  15. FuMaster

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    One could argue that but it's also quite possible we would have seen a rehash of the Hatton fight. Hatton was doing well against Floyd and was aggressive. He started getting countered from the middle rounds on and then the check left hook.

    Floyd is a level or two above JMM. Pac's aggression would have absolutely made the fight more interesting but it would have also opened up Pac for counters. Floyd would have exploited Pac's game more than JMM that's for sure. Remember, JMM has won more rounds heads up versus Pac. How can anybody argue that Floyd would have done worse than JMM? Floyd beats Pac at any point in their career. Pac is made for Floyd.