How does AJ do in Bruno's title shots?

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  1. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Indeed -but, other than Smith (who he was beating easily until the final round), Bruno only lost to elite level heavies. Two of these are arguably Top-10 ATGs and one of those - when Bruno was more seasoned - was being given hell by him.

    I don't rate Wlad on that level. As I mention, Bruno had more tools than most of Wlad's opposition; more than enough to disrupt Dr. Steelhammer.

    Wlad's stamina is not all that, either; not when the pace of the fight is forced. So, I'd wager a Wlad that has to throw a bit needs to get the job done earlier than Bruno does.

    It's not going the distance, either way, but I would see Bruno as a value-for-money bet, here.
     
  2. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    It wasnt so much chin with Bruno,it was stamina..and whyte has that which why he takes a shot too.M.Tyson was really the only guy to defeat Bruno with domination quickly,the rest won bc he wasnt a good long distance guy.I already did the Bruno/Joshua comparisons in the other section.I also did a top 10 80's guys he is one who just misses it bc of inconsitency. You would not know what skills look like to suggest Joshua has not surpassed Bruno yet ,he did that awhile back really..
     
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  3. Okin129

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    It's really ridiculous how you are accused of jumping the gun because you are saying that Joshua has surpassed
    Frank Bruno, we live in a really strange world.
     
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    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I jumped the gun in 2015 when i stated Joshua was better than Lewis at the SAME stage Lewis was at....then you get ppl not knowing Lewis actually had to switch trainers here and there bc he struggled in his early years getting everything right and to coincide in the ring...hence he ended up with Steward and lucked out there bc dopey Holyfield didnt want to pay him the extra $$$ to stick around.Joshua is by far more talented and has more to work with ,if he stays focused no one will beat him that ive seen.

    And no nothing strange about that....boxing is backwards to other combat sports where they see progress and boxing fans dont....lol
     
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    Lewis was nowhere as good in 1993 as he was in 1997-2002 as i already said, you only need to watch his fights
    to see how he improved with Emanuel Steward, Anthony Joshua would definitely beat the 1993 version of Lewis
    in my opinion.

    Lennox Lewis was also very inconsistent from 1989-1996 and had plenty of dull fights.
     
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  6. GALVATRON

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    Thats the problem no one actually studies the fights and looks at age and thinks they can just use that to say they are right,they still havent figured out that prime has nothing to do with age,its when you are operating at your best point.
     
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  7. Fergy

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    I don't see what the big difference is though between comparing Josh fighting for a belt at his age and Bruno. There wasn't much difference in there ages when Frank took on witherspoon. And the 18 fight means nothing. How many fights did Lewis have meeting ruddock, ali meetin liston and holyfield fighting Dwight?
     
  8. Howitzer1888

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    Whilst I think Anthony would likely beat Bruno, Frank was much better than Whyte. Whyte may have a bit more durability but Frank had a much better jab, and considerably more power. He had flaws but I don't think Whyte would have anything to trouble Frank.
     
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    Exactly, for example Mike Tyson was in his prime from 1985-1990, he was only 19-24 years old.
    Wladimir Klitschko was in his prime from 2006-2014, he was 30-38 years old.

    A prime is always individual and has nothing to do with age.
     
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    Anthony Joshua is better now than he was against Dillian Whyte, he improved massively, therefore i think a fight
    between him and Frank Bruno would be similar, i wasn't saying that Whyte is better than Frank Bruno was.
     
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    I can see where you're coming from, but Frank wouldn't be an easy fight for Anthony. He was certainly powerful enough to hurt Anthony. Not only that but that jab would be difficult for Anthony to cope with. Personally I think he catches Bruno mid-rounds and stops him, but I don't think it would be one-sided, I could imagine Frank being perhaps ahead on points at that point.
     
  12. GALVATRON

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    Another point here ppl think Joshua went 7 with Whyte therfor Bruno give Joshua trouble? Bruno was NOT a pressure or aggressive fighter,he was patient and mythodical one ...had Joshua fought Bruno and disrupted all that than what?Ironically Bruno's 18th fight was with Bill sharkey ( i trained with this guy briefly) who was not elite as a Hw too small etc...

    Now if we are comparing fights to fight its ridiculous who at what stage is better,im sure Whyte would be one of Brunos biggest fights even if ppl wont admit that and certainly harder to fight than Smith who was really just tall and huge for his day which got him out of trouble. Lets also add Bruno had Lewis by 10 pounds,he would be not only out sized but out weighed and he would not be able to impose his usual self with either Whyte or Joshua.Bruno vs Whyte is a more even fight here ! Joshua blows both out of the water.

    We all saw what Tyson did to Bruno well joshua imposes the same way and give or take less or more rnds handily defeats him.
     
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    Anthony Joshua would outweigh him by over 10 pounds and he would tower over him, Bruno would be actually one
    of the smallest guys Anthony Joshua has ever fought, it's ridiculous.
     
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  14. GALVATRON

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    It actually depends on what and where Bruno went from 225 to 245 plus.Either way a major differance in fighting Joshua at 240 plus or 250 iss the guy is very fast and just doesnt limit himself to throw one punch at a time ,if you gave Bruno all of Joshuas skills ppl on here would be laughing if roles were reversed and you gave joshua his skill sets and said joshua defeats Bruno. The fact joshua is currently fighting is the confusion...

    Boxing fans cant seem to accept ccurrent modern fighters are actually real....they have to WAIT until they are done /retired to analyze them???how stupid is that...lol
     
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  15. Man_Machine

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    Bruno was 6' 3" with a longer reach than Whyte and able to jab with Lewis.