How good was Jimmy Braddock?

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    This is one fighter that I have always found a bit of an enigma.

    He starts his career promisingly enough, and climbs the light heavyweight rankings, until he runs into Tommy Loughran.

    Despite the defeat, he is seen as a possible heir to the throne, when Loughran steps up in weight.

    He then becomes a serial loser for the next four years, perhaps due to regular hand injuries, until he gets his licence taken.

    He then forges an unlikely comeback, that sees him defeat John Henry Lewis, Art Lasky, and ultimately lift the crown from Max Baer.

    He does a lot beter against Joe Louis than any of the mid 30s champions, with the obvious exception of Schmeling.

    Joe Louis always gave him glowing write ups.

    He once said that he was the hardest puncher that he fought outside of Baer and that if he could put punches together like Schmeling, he would have knocked him out!

    So what was going on here?
     
  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looks like the guy did fight injured for quite a while, but trying to figure out just how good he was is very,very difficult. As you say ,an enigma
     
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    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If it weren't for the Louis bout I would say he wasn't very good. At least at heavy. I would say he beat a sloppy and way over confident Baer with grit and determination but was a flash in the pan.
    However he hung tough with Louis for a little while so he deserves credit for that. I still think he isn't that good but he was game and made the best of the tools he had.
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He looks sloppy and open on film. He had decent size for his day and heart. I know he had injury trouble and other outside negative factors, but the skills and talent just don't seem to be there in spades.
     
  6. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Obviously above average in his own era but had he not beat Max Baer then he probably wouldn't be mentioned here in the classic section.
     
  7. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He knocked Louis down early in the title fight.
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    He battled through set backs and injuries, got the shot at baer, became champ and then fought his heart out against Louis till he was knocked unconscious, so he did a heck of a lot better than most men with his situation.
     
  9. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    I would say he gets beat by majority of Heavyweight Champions if they anywhere near their best, but if they were not at top of their game, i see the workman like Braddock exposing many to having a bad day at the office.
     
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  10. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    He had a world class heart, a terrific chin and a decent right hand .. a workman like fighter .. by no means great but capable of holding his own and pulling out some decent wins if styles and time to train line up ..
     
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  11. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As a light heavyweight he was and was known as a KO puncher. He retained a pretty good right hand as a hwt. Decent boxer as a hwt enough to beat an overconfident Baer although even Baer at his best would have had issues with Braddock in the ring.
     
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  12. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Totally overrated based on the cinderella story. He looks absolutely inept in what was supposed to be his prime. Bad footwork, bad punching technique, low ring IQ. He barely squeeked by a completely unmotivated Baer and judging by the film you could make a case he didnt do enough to even win that fight. Hes a guy like Billy Miske whose story arc has made people think he was a better fighter than he was.
     
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    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jim Braddock was a fair to middling boxer whose limited means were glorified and amplified to a higher level by his sterling work ethic and raw courage. He went by the book in beating one of the greatest head cases of all time in Max Baer, but cannot be labeled a fine textbook boxer or anything...as he was shown up graphically by Tommy Loughran in that department. His courageous "go out on his shield" performance vs Louis further exalts him as a courageous warrior.
    I've always believed that if he did what he should have done when champion, and given the highly deserving Max Schmeling a title shot, the German would have excelled once again, and outclassed Braddock. Denying Schmeling his rightful opportunity was ironically, a deficit for Braddock in the courage and ethics department IMHO.
     
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  15. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I believe at the time Braddocks motivation (aside from $) was to not let the title fall into the hands of the German. He could not have felt he had a better chance to beat prime Louis.
     
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