Kovalev Ward predictions?

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  1. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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  2. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Regardless of result, this is going to be another treat of a great match. Absolute highest level, and riveting drama even when the action lulls. Best matchup in boxing first time, and even better now. They'll be in better shape, and we know with the close first one and rivalry they want it more. If it's close they'll both be going for it late. Wish these guys would fight no one but each other.

    To make a pick, I'll take Ward, by close but uncontroversial decision. I thought Kovalev edged the first fight by a point, but said then I thought Ward was more comfortable by the end, had figure out his distance and could time Kovalev better, and on that could adjust and control a rematch most of the way. I still like Ward's mind and lean that way.

    But I will be making a small play on Kovalev. Only as he's the underdog. My bookie has Kovalev as +130/2.30 underdog, and Ward the 1.68/-147 fave. That means Kovalev is given 43.48% chance and Ward 59.52%. Even if the fight goes the distance I think that is edging to Ward a little too much. Kovalev has the better jab and could put on a Hearns-like outside boxing performance. Assuming it does go the distance I'd say at those odds it would be no bet. But of course: if there's a knockout only Kovalev will get it. I don't doubt Ward has enough power to bother Kovalev, but sorry no way he knocks him out. The under at good odds might be value, but it's set at 9.5 rounds rather than 11.5, and you want to have those last two rounds. Kovalev by KO looks appealing, but I think the bookies at about +400/5.00 (20%) are sharp, and more likely than 80% this goes the distance. This is a close enough matchup that we should acknowledge that either guy CAN win, and that gives good value to the underdog, rare in boxing.

    Here and for boxing bragging rights Ward is my pick. But if he loses Kovalev straight is where my money is :)
     
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  3. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I forgot about him, another one who tested positive for actual AAS, nandrolone in his case.
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah so do I, and what I saw was 2 fighters who were evenly matched, the rounds Kovalev won he won 55-45ish, the round Ward won, he won 55-45ish, the last 3 were 50-50. Not sure what you saw that gives you such confidence in Ward. Even if it goes the distance, Ward was far from schooling Kovalev late, a little more body work, and more use of the jab, Kovalev can easily make those late 55-45 Ward rounds into 55-45 Kovalev rounds. And if he can use his jab to more efficiently set up his power shots, his power will connect flush far more often, and then it will be a factor, because as you said, skillwise, they're fairly evenly matched.
     
  5. Farmboxer

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    SOB hired the referee to be his body guard, so Kovalev will have to knock the referee out of the way to get to SOB, but he will do it, knock SOB down the toilet and back into the sewer from which he came.............
     
  6. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, the narrative that Kovalev won the first half and Ward the second is such bs. It's more accurate to say the first third was Kovalev, middle third Ward, and last third hard to split. But even that isn't quite true, it was close all the way.

    By each winning the rounds they won 55-45ish do you mean the portion of the round each won, or the chance you could score the round for each? Definitely neither outclassed the other in any round. That's what happens with two absolute elites in there, which they showed themselves to be. As far as rounds which were 100% clear however, the 1st and 2nd were Kovalev's and the 5th and 7th Ward's.
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Agree on rounds 1,2,5 and 7. And I meant percentage/portion of the round won, some of the non-1,2,5,7 rounds were more like 51-49 or 52-48, 55-45 is almost being too generous.
     
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  8. DeadLikeMe

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    Kov should go in and try to blitz him out immediately same way as last time. Giving away early rounds to the slow-starting Ward is a stupid decision regardless of the stamina issues Team Kovalev has mentioned. Ward will wear him down in the clinch (no matter who initiates what, you're still right there in the clinch).
     
  9. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    :risas3:
     
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  10. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Massive fight!!!
     
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  11. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's a comical statement because Kovelav beat Ward far easier than Golovkin beat Jacobs and Ward is a far better fighter than Jacobs.
     
  12. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward won only 2 rounds clearly (the 7th and 8th), hardly figuring someone out.
     
  13. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Can't risk my Juan avy :)

    No money no problem let's just enjoy the fight :good:
     
  14. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think either Kovalev stops him by the mid rounds or Ward wins a competitive decision.
     
  15. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kovalev will treat aw exactly like boone in their rematch. Their talent level.have such a huge gap. This time IF AW survives the first 3 rounds kovalev will be able to continue the mismatch. There's zero chance aw can win this, how lost are our fans, mismatch of the highest order