Better All-Around Fighter: Primo Carnera or Riddick Bowe?

No it was a poll to find out where people stand on Carnera. It's not about him being great. It's about was he a real fighter? Was he a real champion?

I don't understand why you are so upset it turns out historians voted that Primo was for real.

 

He held a professional boxers licence and for 8 months was the champion .I kind of think everyone here already knows this.
I'm not upset I couldn't care less actually .The self delusion here is astronomical.

 

This has been a far more informative Poll than yours. In fact, I would go so far as to suggest that the 'legitimacy' Poll, such as you constructed it, was counterinformative.

 

How is a thread, that asks an out right "yes" "no" question, supposed to be informative? Do you complain that the rest rooms or toilets in a nightclub are "counter informative" because there are only two options?

 

One assumes that you haven’t drawn any conclusions from your Poll then, since you think it didn't even need to be informative. What was the point then?

Your toilet example is just that: a toilet example.

 

The conclusion I have drawn from my poll was that 86% of boxing historians overwhelmingly voted that Primo was a legitimate champion.


Why should that be against Bowe?

It was about finding out how many think Primo was for real. Turns out hardly anybody thinks he was a fraud.

 

The conclusion I have drawn from your post above is that you are unable to sensibly articulate your conclusion.

This conclusion, I might add, was favored over that which resolved to you having gone just plain mad.

 

There is nothing mad in wanting to define how popular the notion is that Primo was a real champion.

My conclusion is in agreement with what became the overwhelming majority. Primo paid his dues at World level. He was a legitimate champion.

 

You categorically stated that:

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This statement is, therefore, predicated on one or all of the following:

1. 100% participation in your Poll
2. 100% of the Poll respondents being "boxing historians"
3. 100% of "boxing historians" participating in your poll

One of the above cannot be true since, whatever 100% is in this case, it's not 31 respondents, is it?

And, I am not sure what it is that has you defining all participants as "boxing historians", but I doubt that each and every one of them are. Moreover, even if all of them could be defined as such, I do not think your poll respondents represent 100% of "boxing historians".

In addition and, in the more realistic world, where it is more likely that a significant portion of posters have abstained from your poll, your proclamation is, in all probability, off by some margin.

So, my conclusion that you are unable to sensibly articulate your conclusion, still stands.

 

I'm starting to get the impression that you didn't want to find out how many people think Primo was legitimate.

 

No I am not, but he is the only party leader smiling right now!

Perhaps the campaign to rehabilatate Primo Carnera has a live chance after all!

 

News Flash. Corbyn lost the election

 

Really? That's a shame.

I was hoping you might actually read and comprehend my previous post, so as to fully realize that the conclusion you have drawn from your Poll, is utter guff.

 

Yes I read it, and comprehend the pedantic nature of it. Accusing me of pretending 86% of the universe or all the historians or what ever voted on my poll.

Usually in democracy a government is still decided on the turn out isn't it?

I tend to believe on a classic forum to do with boxing history, debating historical characters from boxing history, that those who participate and vote can be termed boxing historians. I am unaware of any official qualification for this title so I would regard everyone here as such. Certainly participating members deciding the legitimacy of a champion.

Unlike the thread on a poll deciding technical ability between Bowe a modern champion and Primo an old timer champion my poll may not have drew so many members familiar only with the newer guy since my poll was just about a 1930s champion. It did not have posters admitting they didn't know much about Primo, so I would not necessarily regard all those who voted on the Bowe thread as being strong historians on that subject since I doubt they would vote.

 

The way you comprehend very simple things is alarming.