Post Your Kovalev-Ward 2 scorecard here

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  1. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here's what I had through Round 7.


    R1 ----> 10-9 SK
    R2 ----> 10-9 SK
    R3 ----> 10-9 SK
    R4 ----> 10-9 AW
    R5 ----> 10-9 SK
    R6 ----> 10-9 SK
    R7 ----> 10-9 AW


    I had the exact same scorecard as Lederman did. 5-2 Kovalev rounds.

    One judge had this same scorecard, and the other two had it 67-66 Ward (4-3 Ward rounds).

    Kovalev led in punches thrown and punches landed when the fight was stopped.
     
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  2. Sweet_Science

    Sweet_Science Alejandro Rochin, you owe me vcash! Full Member

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    When ones scorecard is identical to Lederman's, I think a bit of soul searching is in order ;)

    Threw out my scorecard after the KO, so not sure about the rounds, but I had it 77-75 Ward.
     
  3. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, I think not. Especially when it matches the scorecard of one of the judges in the fight.

    What I think the official cards point to, however, is that Kovalev cannot expect to get any benefit of the doubt when fighting an American gold medalist in America.

    Kovalev was ahead in both punches thrown and punches landed. As I think he was in the first fight.
     
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  4. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Score rounds for moving forwards and not landing anything while getting countered? No wonder so many fools thought Kovalev won the first fight. I had it Ward 6-1 before Kovalev quit.
     
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  5. junkhead

    junkhead My dogs watch me post Full Member

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    Had 3 clear Kova rounds, 2 clear Ward rounds, 2 even rounds that I learnt a bit more towards Kova for one, and Ward for the other. So maybe 4-3 Kova, 5-2 Kova, or 4-3 Ward.
     
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    Had it 4~3 for Ward
     
  7. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have to see the Compubox, but I am just about certain that Kovalev outlanded Ward in punches in at least three rounds (1, 5, 6). Likely more.

    The only round which I know, for now, that Ward outlanded Kovalev was in Round 4.
     
  8. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    R1 Kovalev
    R2 Kovalev
    R3 Kovalev
    R4 Ward
    R5 Ward
    R6 Even
    R7 Even

    Had Kovalev up by a point going into the eight.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I preferred the work from Andre Ward. Thought Ward eeked out the 1st round, but scoring that for Kovalev was reasonable. From memory, I thought round 2 went to Kovalev, round 3 went to Ward, round 4 was a clear round to Ward. Round 5 was damn close, very even, Kov probably edged it with volume but the better punches from Ward. 6 and 7 can't remember. I mean it was one of those fights where I could see why someone was giving rounds to Kov but the better more quality punches were from Ward. Better variety and every time the ref broke them and they restarted, Ward would set up a big punch. While Kov started with landing the power jabs early in the fight, starting I think in round 4 Ward started landing jabs of his own, and he was ducking down and timing Kov perfectly. In terms of P4P, Ward is CLEARLY more skilled than Kovalev, I mean it's not even close. Kovalev though is more rangy and can fight form distance. Also one thing that became abundantly clear tonight is that Ward has a much better chin than Kovalev. Just all around Ward is better. Yes some of the shots that hurt Kovalev were borderline, however none of them were clearly low. Ward clearly landed the better harder, more quality LEGAL punches in the fight. While Kovalev landed slightly more overall punches.
     
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  10. Eel87

    Eel87 Active Member Full Member

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    Didn't have an actual scorecard, but I had kov ahead. You could kind of tell the fight was gonna turn though.
     
  11. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought that the last punch of the fight (left hand by Ward) was without question low. Like not even close.

    Also, until the final round I thought Kovalev's punches were clearly the stronger. But in the final round Kovalev got hurt early, and then Ward was able to land the heavier blows.

    Still, until Round 8 Kovalev had landed more punches, thrown more punches, and seemed to do the more damage.

    This is why I'm a bit downbeat on the two judges having Ward up 1 point. But I'll wait to say more until I see CompuBox.
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rounds 1-3 were hard to score, I mean they could each have been 10-10 rounds. Round 4 was clear to Ward, round 5 another close one. 6 and 7 would have to watch again. I mean this is the problem with not having even rounds (and Max even talked about even rounds prior to the bout) is that you have guys like Lederman just giving Kovalev a huge lead while the fight is essentially even. The only clear rounds probably of the entire fight was round 4 to Ward and possibly Round 2 to Kovalev. Otherwise you have a very difficult time picking a winner in a round. It's all what you prefer. But personally I preferred Ward because Ward was landing the best puncehs of the round. I mean who do you score it for, a guy that lands slightly more glancing average puncehs, or the guy who lands less punches but the punches they landed are quality, of a great variety and meaningful. In rounds that close I prefer the guy who lands the absolute best punches in a round even if he lands less.
     
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  13. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Round 1 Kova
    Round 2 Kova
    Round 3 Kova
    Round 4 Ward
    Round 5 Ward
    Round 6 Kova
    Round 7 Ward
    Round 8 Krushed.

    Something like that, I think Kova had better output first few rounds mainly outworking Andre despite Andre having the more eye catching shots. Ward however started to get abit more urgent and really started to punnish Kova to his body.
     
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    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    rounds 1,3 where really close and I think they could have easily gone to Ward.
     
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    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I HAVE TO WATCH A FIGHT A MINIMUM OF THREE TIMES BEFORE SCORING. THAT GETS RID OF ALL BIAS PREJUDICE AND EMOTIONAL SCORING. WILL POST LATER