Video proof. Kov apologists its time to throw in the towel

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  1. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The mistake made by Tony Weak was the main cause of these controversies. If he didn't stop the fight then the fight could go on. What exactly he needed to do in that situation was stopping the fight for a while to allow Kovalev to recover before he could continue to fight.
     
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  2. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Why on insist on this narrative, when there is pictures and footage?

    The punch hit the B on the trunks. As you can see the B is much lower than his belly button. His navel was actually on the belt line.

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  3. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I would describe the below as Kovaelv grabbing at his groin and crying out with a pained expression. You would describe that as "didn't react at all" This is not subjective, you are simply wrong.

    We are discussing the punch that prompted the stoppage. Kovalev was ducking in a crouch when hit, he doubled over in pain after he was hit, which is when Weeks steps in. This is on film.


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  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The other thing is Ward. What kind of a ***** takes a win from a BS stoppage from a low blow? Wouldn't he want to win from actually KO'ing Kov then from falcon punching him in the nads? What kind of a man takes a weak ass win like that?
     
  5. Drew101

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    If Kovalev blocked the first one, he probably wouldn't have doubled him over in the manner that it did. Second one looks like it catches at least some of Kov's torso, too based on some additional replays that I've seen. The first two shot are legit and nasty. The final shot is nasty in its own right, even if it was most definitely a foul.

    Still, I have to wonder if Kov might have taken a seat on the ropes if Ward had cuffed him on the head, instead. He wasn't reacting well at all in the 45 seconds that had preceded that final sequence and looked to be just about done anyway.
     
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  7. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    How on eart is the final 2-3 shots irrelevant? Are you ******ed??
     
  8. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The first one Kovalev throws a jab and Ward comes underneath with a left uppercut from a Southpaw stance.
    Given the camera angles and the position of Kovalev's right arm it's hard to tell if it landed clean. Kov says it did but I can't tell. Ward uses his momentum to then push Kovalev into the ropes.

    Kovalev crouches in a guard in anticipation of the second punch, his gloves
    are low. The punch seems to go under them from the angles we've seen. It hit low, but how low, we don't know for certain, just that it was under the gloves. I can't conclude how legit they are. I've watched it from a fan camera too and you still can't tell.

    He doesn't sit on the ropes until the fight is already waved off by Weeks so I'm not sure why people focus on that as a reason for anything.
     
  9. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    3 low blows.
     
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  10. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    This video wasn't compromised I've watched the fight three times now. For most a direct influence of desire and beliefs control how they identify certain events. Simply put when you would like a certain idea to be true you end up believing it to be true. Some are motivated by wishful thinking in this case folks are convinced the low blows prior to the stoppage punctuated the story of the fight...it didn't tell the story but it was part of the end of this Ward/Kovalev chapter.

    It's an error defined as confirmation biased, it motivates the viewer to stop gathering information when the evidence gathered so far confirms the views (prejudices) one would like to be true. In this case everything Ward produced pre & post the final low blows is being conviently ignored and defined as inconsequential. Mr Weeks, as fun as he can be at times, fked this one up by not letting Kovalev continue.

    Many are still seeking closure though I have a good idea which fighter ultimately showed the public who's tougher mentally and physically. This is what I've gathered....my apologies to those that I may be offending.
     
  11. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    The Kovalover's never thought Ward could do what he did. Once Kov crumpled in agony and quit, their biased little minds imediately went into excuse mode. No matter what this guys will not give Ward credit. Even if Kovalev came.out and said Ward was the better man.
     
  12. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I don't believe it was blatant or intentional, I do believe, however, that it was over zealous on his part and yes a casualty of a heated war.
     
  13. DONT B SCARED

    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    You see what you wanna see obviously that video didn't prove anything at all, the Kentucky cobras video just above it showed the only punch that was just low
     
  14. khaosai galaxi

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    Weeks interpretation of a low punch is clearly wrong. With other referee for instance, wars would have at least got several warning to keep it up, but No... He was allowed to bang below the belt line while crouching and the punches coming from down traveling upwards. I can tell you now those punches are illegal and hurt and not all together unintentional.
     
  15. khaosai galaxi

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    I believe they are not totally unintentional.