What are the real results of the Kovalev/Ward series in your opinion?

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What's the real score?

  1. 2-0 Ward - Too versatile, too sharp, too slick

    2 vote(s)
    13.3%
  2. 1-1 Kovalev won first, Ward legit won 2nd

    1 vote(s)
    6.7%
  3. 1-0-0-1 Kovalev (Won 1st fight, 2nd fight should be NC)

    11 vote(s)
    73.3%
  4. 2-0 Kovalev - Kovalev won first fight, 2nd fight Should've won by DQ

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. 0-0 Draw 1st fight, NC 2nd fight

    1 vote(s)
    6.7%
  6. 1-0-1 Ward - Draw 1st fight, Ward legit won 2nd

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Kovalev vs Ward fights are mired in controversy and will be debated ad nauseum for generations, NSAC ruled 2-0 for Ward but what is your opinion on what the outcomes should have been?
     
  2. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had the 1st one as a draw and felt Ward was on course to win the 2nd fairly, before the brutality began.
     
  3. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    Option 3.
    There is only one correct answer.
     
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  4. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dislike Ward even more so.
     
  5. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No 1-0-1 for Ward options?
     
  6. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1 and 1 = 2 Ward. How else should it be scored?
     
  7. ForemanJab

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    2nd fight couldn't possibly be ruled a draw, so no
     
  8. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Hmmm, how reality has it. 2-0 Ward. Moral victories don't count.
     
  9. Drew101

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    First fight could have, though.
     
  10. Drew101

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    Draw first fight, legit win for Ward second fight is not on the list.
     
  11. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair enough, I added it to the poll options
     
  12. Drew101

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    :thumbsup:
     
  13. Ilikeboxing

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    I have me a draw and NC.
    They are both still equal level fighters in my eyes even after the controversies. I just won't watch another Ward fight for the blatant low blows though.
     
  14. DeadLikeMe

    DeadLikeMe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    114-113 Ward is the professional score for the first fight if you're judging each round with the exact criteria judges are given to score by. They judged that fight perfectly imo.
     
  15. NewBoxingOrder

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    Inconclusive series. I have it as 1-0-0-1 for Kovalev, with the last fight being a DQ/NC or however you want to characterize it.

    As I have said elsewhere, this is what we know statistically for the 20 rounds the two fought.

    ===> 12-8 Kovalev rounds based upon CompuBox stat of total punches landed per round
    ===> Kovalev threw more punches
    ===> Kovalev landed more punches
    ===> Kovalev landed more power punches

    And yet, Kovalev was -1, -1, -1 on the judges' scorecards after the first fight and -1, -1, +3 on the scorecards after the 7th round of the second fight.

    To me, this is typical 'hometown' judging and reffing. It is what it is, but I would have been much happier if:

    - Meeks didn't stop the second fight following an illegal low blow
    - The second fight took place outside of the USA, with a non-USA ref and non-USA judges

    I can understand if Kovalev wants a third fight, but given all the information we have, that might not be in his best interest because of reffing/judging.

    Both fighters seem to be moving on. Kovalev will be back on HBO before the end of the year, and Ward sounds like he wants to move up to another division.