Ward vs Usyk

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  1. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ward and Hunter have said they want to move to heavyweight and cruiser. There is no way they were serious about fighting Anthony Joshua. Will not happen.

    I don't even think Ward would beat Usyk who is far bigger then him, let alone AJ. But since Ward called out the cruisers how do you see this one going?
     
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    baconmaker Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nobody beats Usyk, exept in shape Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua by lucky punch. Everyone else loses IMO.
     
  3. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk is too big.

    Ward isn't going to overcome 3 inches of height, 7 inches of reach, and 25+ pounds, especially as Usyk also has p4p-level skills.
     
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    velagod Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk batters him and schools him.
     
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  5. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Usyk struggles with the little men. And Ward is physically strong.
    But like you said, Usyk has the skills.
    Yet it´s likely that all the titles will be held up in the tournament. Ward will likely fight Bellew, if he is to move up in weight.
     
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    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's true. But I still think the gap from LHW to cruiser is huge, with that size difference Usyk's struggles against smaller fighters might not be all that relevant.

    And yes, Ward will fight Bellew if he moves up. I doubt it though, I think Ward will fight Badou Jack or Stevenson and then retire.
     
  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Who has he 'struggled' with that's small? Mchunu? Took a couple of rounds to figure out the very awkward fighter out, but he hardly STRUGGLED with him. Glowacki? That was his first time stepping in with a top 20 opponent, and against someone many ranked as the #1 CW in the world at the time if not top 3... Even then - he passed his first test which was a QUANTUM LEAP from the guys he had been fighting and passed with flying colors.. Despite being the same height as Ward Glowacki has a 4 inch reach advantage and is obviously bulkier.
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Think about it.
    Jack is tied to PBC. Jay-Z and Big Al have some serious issues.
    Stevenson has a mandatory coming up.
    Kovalev just suffered two back to back defeats to Ward.
    Anyone honestly believes Ward will fight the likes of Beterbiev and Gvozdyk? There is no money there.

    This leaves Joe Smith Jr. (i believe Smith has enough to beat Barrera)

    At CW, it seems all the name fighters are tied up in the tournament, including Usyk.
    This leaves Ward with Bellew.

    A dominant victory over Bellew would also open some doors at HW.
     
  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    It's known from his amateur days.
    And i guess you are putting to much emphasis on the word "struggle".
    Maybe i should have used a different word.(no need to get so aggressive there)
    Usyk has always performed better against bigger men, than men his own size or smaller.
     
  10. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Usyks skills are overblown, I don't see this CW Lomachenko that others do. He struggled against Hunter who's very average, I think Ward would do a number on him.
     
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  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    May not be Lomachenko but that's hardly an insult, still a very talented and capable fighter.
     
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  12. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Average fighters dont move the way Hunter does.
     
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    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He may be better than average, but still levels below someone like Ward.
     
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    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    LOL based on what?

    Ward was being out jabbed and outboxed by Kovalev, Usyk is bigger, stronger and most importantly a better boxer than Ward.

    Ward gets eaten up and stopped in 8.
     
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    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Usyk has a lot to do before he proves he's anywhere near Wards level. Don't take it so personally.