Lomachenko Today Would Wreck Mayweather @ 130/135.

No need to for GGG... As for the one's about Lomachenko? Refer to this thread.

 

Yes. What's your point?

 

Rigondeaux would have never lost to Salido like that. His footwork and defensive ability is too great to lose to an old crude brawler like Salido. Rigondeaux also has more power than Lomachenko. Salido would have probably been stopped mid to late rounds, and left the ring with the pumpkin face.

 

If you watched the fight, you would know my point. Actually, you wouldn't even be claiming Loma lost the fight. Any neutral observer of that fight, knows Loma was hit low repeatedly by Salido. At a minimum, Salido should have lost 2 or 3 points from low blows. He actually should have been DQ'd. But despite that, Loma nearly KO'd Salido in the last round despite being hit low all night. After that night, Cole should have never ref'd another championship fight. Proved himself to be totally incompetent.

 

Lomo kept holding. Over and over. I guess you must have forgotten about that.

 

Pimp you're an emotional wreck. I could bring up the fact that floyd lost in the olympics. He failed! Lomachenko won 2 golds so does that make him better than floyd??? No!
Does the fact that most people believe floyd lost to Castillo make floyd an overrated fighter? No!
You would have to be stupid to define floyds career over his loss in the olympics and his performance against Castillo?
If you want to bring up career facts and statistics then here you have it...
Lomachenko 404-2
Mayweather 133-8

 

No, I didn't forget. When you get hit low repeatedly it takes a lot out of you. Are you denying he was hit low repeatedly?

 

Ahh, so your stance is that Loma didn't lose because Salido is a dirty fighter. Sorry, but it doesn't work like that. Salido beat Loma. And, if you believe that Salido is the only dirty/roughhouse fighter out there, you're wrong. In fact, both Castillo (far more skilled than Salido) and Maidana (who's bigger and stronger) are better at that game than Salido and both lost to Floyd. And, for the haters, Floyd rematched both and beat them both more decisively than the first time. Floyd would never allow fighters who are bigger and stronger than him to beat him with those tactics.

But, Loma would beat Floyd. Right.

Again, let's see Loma after 10 more fights and better competition, then we can have a discussion about him vs Floyd.

 

No, he DID lose because Salido fought a dirty fight AND Cole was incompetent. And let's not forget Salido wasn't even fighting for the title that night. Remember why? Because he came in over weight. The fight should have never been fought, at least not that night.

 

course he wouldn't lose like that, they have different styles

 

Who gives a **** about amateur career? This is a pro boxing website not an amateur one. What you just posted was ridiculous. We're talking about a possible fight between the two in the pros at 130/135 not the amateurs.
BTW I couldn't care less if most people thought he lost, if that is even true to begin with, but what I do care about is what their pro records are, PBF 2-0 against JLC and 49-0 overall Loma 0-1 against Salido and 8-1 overall. Amateur records are irrelevant to me.

 

The main problem with Loma's detractors in this matchup and even fans alike is that most aren't actually aware of what Loma is doing in there to checkmate his opponents the way he does. It's the highest possible level of thinking and his game is 100% tailored to his opponents output that comes from setting up his own punches - that is his gameplan, this is what he imposes. He doesn't need to impose his own 'individual gameplan' in there. Have you not realised that when Anatoly gives Loma advice, he's given the most generic advice ever? Anatoly is simply ensuring Loma re-adjusts his sphere/basic focus of attack.

Loma takes his opponents counters away from them. The difference is, whilst doing this, he's doing plethora of other things i.e measuring up the way they throw their punches and their range on the most simplest forms, firing a different attack emanating from the same position he landed an earlier shot, Loma will increasingly add new variations to any one attack of his that he's already established, to make his opponent dumbfounded. This is where the paralysis of Loma's opponents really sets in.
You can make an adjustment but Loma immediately will invite that adjustment and take that away from you. It's weird. Mayweather has the problem where he often reacts to his opponent and is brilliant at that, but you're still going to be feeding into Lomachenko's paradigm where he's constantly setting up.

He'll do a sequence of punching and feinting/feinting then punching in a series to set up his major shots whereby you will be reactive to the feint but Loma will anticipate your movement and punish you - a perfect form of this is the Rocky Martinez KO.

Loma's jab is superior to Mayweather's. He makes so much use of it.

I have not seen Mayweather operate at this level in terms of ring IQ.

Loma's amateur opponents were bigger than Mayweather naturally in the amateurs. Look at how helpless they were and how little their dimensions played a factor. Mayweather is the bigger guy overall but the dimensions of length are not a factor in this matchup.

In any case, let's see Loma in there with some proven elite fighters - hopefully Corrales/Castillo level. Loma KO's Mikey btw, I really want that fight happening.

 

And why do you think mayweather fought Castillo twice? Because everyone knew he got a gift decision and Castillo deserved a rematch.

so all the great Cuban amateur's careers are irrelevant to you? You really are a dumb ****!

 

In Floyd's last 15 fights he has KO'd 3 fighters. In his first 15 fights he KO'd 13. He has a split decision with DLH. He went the distance with Berto, Maidana, Guerrero, Cotto, Alvarez, Baldomir, Judah. He had a majority decision against Canelo. And you want to hold this guy out as one of the greatest? His record is not that special, and he does not deserve all the hype he is getting. And then you have a guy like Loma who has stopped 6 out of the 9 fighters he has faced. The only reason McGregor is agreeing to fight Floyd, in addition to the purse, is because Floyd hasn't KO'd anyone.

 

On a pro boxing forum, yes!