Rocky Marciano v.s Andre Ward At 185. Who Wins?

It can actually be beneficial for older fighters to recover actually. The truth is though Wlad was not close to his prime physically.

I'll be honest, I'm not the biggest fans of the fighters pre 50's. I think they get overrated so much it's comical.

 

Louis was overrated AF too. Ali and Foreman were legit. Ali and Foreman would have an easy time with Marciano and Louis.

 

Yeah just more unsubstantiated BS rhetoric

Walcott like I said had improved into his 30s. He was the man at HW and had recently been coming off some of the best wins of his career.

Wlad had showed very visible deterioration for years, was no longer champion and hadn't fought in almost 2 years when he stepped in with Joshua. Horrible comparison.

 

I was starting to think Ellerbe was a fair and unbiased poster.

Seems he's taking Ward here tho

 

Actually it was a very good comparison. Let me school you yet again. Walcotts record before fighting Marciano was 3-2 in his past 5 fights. Before Wlad fought Joshua in his last 5 fights he was 4-1. You say that Walcott improved in his 30's, what part of his 30's, his early 30's, or when he was basically 40 LOL.

LOL @ visible deterioration for years. He looked awful in one fight against Fury, and didn't look amazing against Jennings. He was far from shot. Was he in his prime? No, but he isn't what you're making it out to be. Fury would have always beat Wlad anyways, too much movement and feints for Wlad.

 

Robinson was overrated af too. I find it hilarious how people call him p4p the most skilled fighter of all time. I've seen plenty of tape of the guy. Yes for his era, sure, him Marciano, Louis etc were amazing, but for their era. This is like saying George Mikan is the most skilled center of all time LOL, though I'm not claiming that this comparison is good since basketball was just created while boxing has been around for aegs.

 

You're not schooling anybody man, you're making a fool of yourself.

Wlad hadn't won a single fight in over 2 YEARS before facing Joshua, he was a shadow of himself vs Jennings and Fury. You have to go back at least 3 years to see Wlad look sharp vs a rated contender.

Marciano's win over Louis>>>>>>>> Joshua's win over Wlad

 

It's not just about weight for me. I don't know if Rocky even beats a Bellew at cruiser. The eras are completely different too rule wise, you get away with way more in the past era than now. Watch Marciano tapes, the guy was so ****ing wild. He had some nice body/head movement, but punching technique wise, they looked so primitive compared to the fighters today.

 

Wlad got a breather, is that a bad thing for a man in his 40's? The facts are is he was 4-1 before fighting Joshua and Walcott was 3-2 before fighting Marciano. Louis was also not even close to his prime when he fought Wlad, and Wlad was a much better fighter than Louis ever was. H2H, Joshua and Wlad would absolutely destroyed Louis nad Marciano.

I dont know why you're bringing up Louis now though, I guess I destroyed you so badly you're trying to go off tangent. Nice try.

 

Fair point. I'm not just saying Rocky though, I'm saying fighters in that era, their technique just seemed so primitive. Under this era of boxing officiating, I don't see them transitioning well. Also even though I'm a huge Wilder fan and the likes of Povetkin ducked him, the guy does not have good wins. If he beat a prime Lewis, Wlad, Vitali, Tyson, etc then you could say his primitive wild technique faired well in this era.