"Marciano was the hardest puncher I ever seen" - Don Turner

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    B.S. Turner was still trying to box as late as 1969 Goldman died in1968! Turners greatest claim to fame maybe convincing Holyfield he didnt need a cut man that they were a con, a scam. Something that Holyfield paid dearly for when he lost his title to Moorer!

    http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/23/sports/sports-of-the-times-the-cut-man-who-wasn-t-there.html
     
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  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I don't see your point.
    Turner was 28 years old.

    Active boxers can learn training tips from a trainer.
    Some of the most helpful teachers at the gym are active boxers.

    If this is what it takes for you to call someone BS, your judgements have very little credibility in my eyes.
     
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  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Show me a verified link that says Turner studied under Goldman .
    Its claptrap!
    Here's some more great advice from Turner.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1994-04-28/sports/sp-51222_1_cut-man
     
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  4. reznick

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    And this is exactly the problem with the way you present arguments.
    Often, if the subject is someone you're not a fan of, you'll seek out the worst information on them, and present it as the absolute truth.

    "[Manny Stewart] knows nothing. He's not that good."

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    If you decide you don't like Stewart, you'll present information like this, and say "He didn't even have the appreciation of top boxers of his time!"
     
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  5. mcvey

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    I neither like or dislike either of them I just said I'm not a fan of Turners and I'm not ,all that ,"I was there sh*t !" Actually Don ,NO YOU WERENT !
    I do know one thing for an absolute certainty, if Don Turner had said Rocky Marciano is overated you would be the first in line calling him an ignorant c*nt!
    If you want to dismiss two newspaper articles from two of the top papers from your country that's fine with me.I just presented them for your perusal and education because I'm damn sure you were totally unaware of them and their accusations until I did!
    TBH I couldn't give a f*ck,Im off to watch a dvd.
     
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  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    No comparison.
     
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  7. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Nah.
    Unlike you, I don't trash credible people of the sport when their opinion doesn't align with mine.
     
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  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    But who says he's credible? I'm guessing you don't have any twinkle-in-the-eye sh*t-talking, story-telling uncles or grandfathers? You've never come across athletes or other sports people who have nonsensical views about their sport?
     
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  9. Radrook

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    During the post-fight interview, when asked to evaluate Marciano, Archie Moore said that Marciano needed much more improvement and that with a lot of work he would get there.
     
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  10. louis54

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    Dempsey said this after the Louis..Walcott bouts....he changed his mind a little I suspect after some of latter bouts.....he said in the thrites that max beer was the hardest hitter ever including himself....by 1969 he said it was a tie between Louis and Marcia no.... Thanks
     
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  11. reznick

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    Who, Turner? His resume says he is credible, at the baseline. He's trained with, coached, and helped some of the best boxers in recent decades. Some of the best boxers ever.
     
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  13. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Archie Moore was a known liar.
     
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  14. Glass City Cobra

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    "The devil and sonny liston"...?

    I read that book and people wanted to ignore that part about moore.
     
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