Eubank Sr: Canelo is P4P best! Collins is toughest ever!

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  1. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    'Canelo Alvarez in my humble opinion as a former participant of this sexy but deadly form of art, is the best fighter in the world, lb4lb. I am a big admirer of his talent and skill and toughness, a throwback. He is trained old school by his trainers, as I was in New York City. He was a man at 16, as I was forced to be. And he learned his lesson against the grand master in Money Mayweather; and that was don't rush and lead but rather time a counter. I learned a similar lesson sparring Herol Graham. He has the best timing in the world, does this Alvarez. He is an aggressive counter puncher and they are rare at top level, he is #1 for me.

    'If you stand in front of Canelo, his combination punching ability is the best I've ever seen, he is so gifted and creative with his work around a guard. He reminds me a lot of Henry Wharton, if Henry Wharton wasn't naturally flat-footed, he was unbeatable - nobody doubled and trebled and quadrupled their left hands with hooks to the head and body and left uppercuts like that. Henry Wharton had the beating of me but didn't know how to execute a strategy, to pick shots and pick his spots and so on. Had Canelo did so against Floyd, he had the beating of Floyd Mayweather that night, and he has improved fight by fight since!

    'Even including Floyd, I might say Canelo is the best out there.'


    He also spoke about Steve Collins being the hardest man ever.

    'Steve Collins is the strongest candidate you can think of for being the toughest man ever, or hardest or sturdiest individual shall we say, ever. Mike McCallum told me he never hit anyone so hard to the body, he countered Steve downstairs all night long in Boston and I was ringside with Bob Arum that night and despite a Ricky Hatton-like Irish crowd I heard those body shots rip in there and I saw Collins not even flinch or wince or budge.

    'McCallum saw him with welts on his ribs a few hours after, smiling. Steve has rode horses since he retired from boxing, broke most of his bones taking falls and got back on the saddle every time so he says, and I can't disbelieve that. When Benn hit me I shuddered and squeezed my face, my body was shifted, my neck all jolted and so on; Collins wouldn't even blink when Benn struck him and was actually physically walking through the punches.

    'In our second fight I recall hitting Steve with a right hand in maybe the 4th or 5th, I had decent room to execute the blow and lever into it, and for sure it was akin to a high-powered ballistic missile - I mean shots with less power had sent various opponents head over heels, and this man wasn't affected in the slightest. He just kept coming. What do you do with him?

    'Hundreds of amateur fights from aged seven or eight right through the levels and through the weights up to heavyweight in Ireland, beating all the travelling community and what not. He went to Boston as a young man with no money I believe, a cash-in-hand labourer and hunted Marvin Hagler to spar.

    'Conor McGregor has said he respects Steve Collins more than anybody in the world.'
     
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  2. radupidu

    radupidu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wtf I thought junior was the best in the world.

    Good read man Thanks
     
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  3. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    it's a damn shame we never will get to see Eubank jr vs Canelo..

    I was so excited for Eubank Jr vs Golovkin sucks that ship has sailed
     
  4. Zulawski

    Zulawski The Fistic Pariah Full Member

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    Has anybody asked him about Eubank Jr entering the WBSS super middleweight tourney? Would love to hear his excuse.
     
  5. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I have to admit that was a good read
     
  6. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Love to see McClellan or Jackson try their hand at kayoing Collins in a time warp if we could.
     
  7. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    Eubank chose paper champ Canelo as the best because he's not a threat to his legacy or to his son.

    What is he going to say when Gennady wins every rd vs Canelo before kayoing him in the ninth?
     
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  8. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GGG will knock out Canelo with a left hook to the body while behind on points.
     
  9. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was Sean Mannion, who also fought McCallum and was an extremely tough Irishman with a granite chin.

    Actually, I think the fight with McCallum he is referring to is Mannion also, which was in Boston.
     
  10. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Definitely Collins. Mannion may have also. Collins was on the same cards as his future trainer Freddie Roach in '86.
     
  11. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo vs Eubank Jr in Vegas would be good, with Jr bringing Brits over and Canelo drawing in the Mexicans.
     
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  12. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Why won't it ever happen they are 1 division apart?
     
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  13. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Would love to see what you say when he's in? Hope you don't say it's a bum tournament, Groves and Jr both ice Canelo and GGG
     
  14. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Do you have downs?
     
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  15. Zulawski

    Zulawski The Fistic Pariah Full Member

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    I'd be happy if he joined. I just don't think he will. Pretty ballsy claim concerning a protected paper champ and a guy who took years to get a belt in a weak division beating two of the best fighters in boxing. Typical Brit cancer fanboy.