Educating Fools: Lomachenko Did Not Duck Rigondeaux!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Gannicus, Jul 1, 2017.


  1. SOUTHERMOST

    SOUTHERMOST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's going here you have a guy here selling a fight nobody wants to see and blaming others. First Bob hates Rigo and Mickey he will never allow Loma to fight them very simple we all know the reasons.
     
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  3. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Not at all. Bob has a history and a pattern. There's no conspiracy theory behind that. Btw, you haven't listed evidence, you've listed opinion. You say Rigo accepted weight and money but the deal was 500k, winner gets an additional 500k. Who the **** has ever done a deal like that. Nobody. That's not a serious deal. Plus Bob didn't accept Rigos rehydration demand so what are you talking about the weight was accepted lmao. You don't have no article or nothing to back up your statements.

    There was no rebuttal from team Loma after team Rigo called out their 130 bluff and next thing we all know, he's fighting Marriaga. Same ole Bob Arum bs. Provide proof or shut up please. I'm sick of ESB being an alternative facts site. We have no credibility whatsoever because we let a bunch of fanboys run rampant on nonsense.
     
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  4. Earfquake

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    Good ole Bob "Countdown Clock" Arum. LOL. Or can we call him "Cuts need to heal Arum" or "Stadium needs to be built Arum"?
     
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  5. Earfquake

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    For the record. I like Loma alot and think hes one of the top fighters in the sport. Hes so good. But theres just a group of women/lil boys here who want to believe every top EE fighter is so feared that nobody will fight them. And thats just not true.
     
  6. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    These guys try to act like Bob has credibility. It's a joke. He's contradicted himself more than anyone.
     
  7. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I believe we're not getting all of the info, or misleading info. Who said Rigo agreed? Loma? What if weight was never agreed to?
     
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  8. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    It's all out there, all you have to do is go and check. I can't show you the very documentation which is what you appear to be asking. It's literally everywhere that Rigo after initially wanting 124, he ended up being fine with 126lbs and they were negotiating the fight with this in mind. There were so many videos and stuff on the net out during that time, it's tiresome.
    It is also everywhere that Rigo has gone on record bouncing out of the agreements saying he's not down for fighting at 126 anymore and telling Loma to move down to 124 (knowing full well Loma categorically rejected such a thing), so the rehydration clause is actually a red herring.
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    The financials, however you like to moan about it, were agreed upon and it was therefore a serious deal.
    Rigondeaux then ended up saying after agreeing with the finances:
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    'Reality is that your promoter does not want to pay what I valgo (want). When they are ready come with the money to give the fans the fight' - He thus shot himself in the foot and exposed himself right there.
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    (Rigo before btw wanted less than what was finally arranged).
    The translation of the response (before Vasyl quoted the older post) was:
    'You are a coward and a *****! Then you gave the answer!'
    Rigo accepted the weight (126lbs, rehydration clause of 137lbs) http://www.*******.com/vasyl-lomachenko-rigondeaux-not-want-fight--95269
    Rigo then went onto price himself out completely
    http://www.*******.com/arum-rigonde...--97865?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    "The poor guy. I'm one of the few guys who likes Rigondeaux, but he has these guys with him - the Caribe guys - who are not professionals in boxing, who have unbelievable expectations," Arum said.

    "Like, they said 'we can get millions of dollars for the [Lomachenko] fight.' And I said 'from where?' And he says 'Cuba.' I said 'what are you f***ing crazy? There is still an embargo.'"

    http://www.*******.com/arum-rigonde...--97865?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well said.
     
  10. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    YDKSAB by putting Lomachenko and Donaire in the same sentence.

    Lomachenko has a better resume and already a 2 weight world champion whilst Rigo is content to fight in the same division.
     
  11. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Well a lot of Loma fans have also acknowledged that Bob is lowballing opponents. The problem is, this is not a valid argument in this context as Arum bettered Rigo's offer by saying that instead of the winner getting $1m and the loser gets nothing which is what Rigo demanded, they will both get $500k and the winner will get an extra $500k.
    Rigo at the end of all of this saga said no as the fight was apparently worth millions - what a joke. No one knew who these obscure fighters were then...many still dont know Loma now.
    Lomachenko was ducked financially AND via weight.
     
  12. Earfquake

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    Just because he put Donaire and Loma in the same sentence doesnt mean anything. I think we could all agree that Loma is better than Donaire. That doesnt mean Arum wants to put him in with Rigo. We already know Arums feelings on Rigo. You are reaching if you think you can take away a posters credibility because he compared the situation to Donaire/Rigo. And you havent paid attention to how Arum operates either. Hes the one with almost no credibility.
     
  13. Earfquake

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    Both of those offers are garbage. No one is fighting for a 1 mil purse winner take all. And the counter of 500k each with winner getting 500k is also stupid. Nobody is doing that. Its simply just talk in the media. You dont see deals like that getting done anywhere. Both sides are just talking to puff chests with no real intention of talking in a serious manner.
     
  14. Odins beard

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    Read what Gannicus has posted, read it, read it again and let it sink in.

    Amazing how Lomachenko is getting alot of flack for his next opponent when Rigo has made a career of fighting sub par opposition since Donaire.
     
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  15. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    That's what Rigo wanted! Who are you the keyboard casual (no offence srs) to say what's stupid when Rigo himself wanted it? $1m for the winner and a $500k base for two obscure unknown fighters is reasonable - even if it isn't, it was put on the table by Arum, and Rigo rejected what was a better deal than what he envisioned. Therefore Rigo was playing pathetic games.
    To hear Rigo's end then say the fight was worth millions when we all know it absolutely isn't, this is an absolute joke and is as clear as night and day that Rigo's team are just throwing BS around. A clear duck.
    so the point of the whole thread was...excuse Loma for not wanting to do business with Rigo because Rigo is a proven BS'er.

    I do hope the fight gets made though, maybe if they had more time they could sort something out and if Rigo really does have balls, but I have no problem if Loma doesn't waste time on this Goblet.