Modern Day Super-Heavys that defeat Holmes of 1978 ?

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    43 of his 64 victims were from the US. Nice try.

    It's sad that the US can't produce great heavyweights any longer and that their residents are forced to follow those who achieve the top ranks in the division.
     
  2. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But the European hwts suck.
     
  3. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wlad Klitchko and Joshua defeat him.

    Fury could cause problems for such an awkard style and having the reach which could throw Holmes off....50/50.

    Guys like Haye would probably beat him at his best bc hes a stronger spinks and in 78 Holmes had not grown into his body...he self admitted he was stronger when he weighed more( he said this after the Witherspoon fight...weight doesnt matter though?)

    Off beat fighters like Izu/ whyte/Breazeale/ Pulev/wilder all give him a fight and may also cause trouble ..really this is a tough question bc fighters would adapt better today to figure out past a jab and they arent as basic as Norton was and YES they are bigger now.Holmes LIKED having reach to set things up and didnt look good always against taller guys.
     
  4. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hwt fighters today are horrible technically. Holmes was so much better with fundamentals plus he had good lateral movement which is a rarity today. Holmes would neatly outbox the large, poorer conditioned ponderous hwt seen today.
     
  5. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If you switched era fighters and put the 70's guys in today ...you would be saying the SAME thing.....theres a differance between looking at eras and looking at the ACTUAL fighters.You guys dont know how to do that.

    And on the 70's fighters they were extremely sloppy at times and not exactly defensivley minded. The only guy that actual resemble a Foreman who was slow and a straight forward fighter is Breazeale , who also eats punches to land one.
     
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  6. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wlad Klich wasn't any better than Felix Sturm p4p skill wise. In fact Sturm actually had a better jab
    The footage im about to show you proves this beyond reproach.

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    Saying Wlad beats Holmes is like saying Sturm beats Hopkins:confundio::cbiggrin::copas:
     
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  8. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Complete BS. As a whole European hwts can't fight. They have the very straight up stiff amateur Olympic style we all laughed at in the 70s.
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I don't think you have seen enough of Larry Holmes. Please get back to me after watching this fight.

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  11. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rich.....your posts are embarrassingly lame.
     
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  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Apparently it is yank heavies that can't fight if one looks at the past 20 years of the division.

    Lewis, Wlad, Vitali...
    #domination
     
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  14. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Based on that fight???sorry but are you actually following the thread and it says 1978...would you like me DIG up Holmes qquote of if hes heavier he does better bc hes stronger? How tall are you?Have you fought EVER? Do you know different fighter excell against others bc of the time periods?

    Get back too you????Ive watched and studied enough fights where i could stop watching and you could watch a decade straight of fights to gather more and i still have more logical insight than you could.
     
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  15. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Galv has no idea what he is writing about. Galv and Rich have remarkably similar IQ's!
     
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