Pacquiao is officially shot - Or he had a very bad night.

Possibly, but did you hear what he said about Pac and his wars with MAB, Marquez and Morales. Pac could soak up an almost dehumanizing amount of physical punishment, throw 1,000 bombs and then look like he could go another 12 rounds.

Tonight he was gassed from a round 9 flurry. As a guy who has seen every single Pacquiao fight, that wasn't the Pac I've known in there tonight. Hell, I haven't really seen "that" Pac since at least the Margarito and Cotto fights.

 

Pac's head movement took a day off as well

 

Look at his head movement in the first Marquez fight and the Hatton fight and compare that to the Horn fight. I'm fine with people appreciating Horn, but come on, call a spade a spade. Pac was clearly a very diminished a version of his former self last night. How can someone deny that?

 

Pac still landed enough times on the chin to think that Khan would not stand up to it. Your opinion with a potential Khan fight will not change after watching. Horn did very well on the inside, where Khan would not be able to do anything to exploit that weakness of Pac.

 

Good call.

Round 1, noticed that immediately and it never changed.

 

He's been in clear and obvious decline for about 5 or 6 years now.

 

Manny is totally done.

Great performance from Horn but it was pretty obvious Manny just could not pull the trigger. That was the least aggressive version of Manny I have seen. When the old Manny was hit he would get immediate payback and attempt to punish his opponent. Manny last night absorbed punishment and would just stare at Horn.

Great fight but he is done. Please retire. Roach do the right thing.

 

I'm happy that it was Horn who beat the completely shot version of Pac. I mean look at these people pumping up Jeff Horn. LMAO, it was Jeff Horn and they're giving him a ton of credit for a controversial UD over a shot Featherweight.

Imagine if this had been Bud Crawford like Bob wanted all along after Pac KO'ed Jeff Horn. People would be losing their minds when Bud just annihilated Pac and full Bud pump mode would begin on this forum and on ESPN. All for thrashing a shot Featherweight.

People have the analytical ability of a sheep.

 

Pac's done now. Forget the rematch, he should call it a day imo.

Credit to Horn, though. I didn't give him a chance, but he proved me wrong. Not sure how he would do against someone like Thurman, who I rate highly, but, as a neutral, it will be interesting to see him in these kind of fights.

 

If you rely on speed then 38 is a big deal in boxing. If you are a power puncher then being 38 is still a big disadvantage but it is not overwhelming. Pac has always relied on both power and speed. He is now too slow and unmotivated to be in the fight game. He needs to get out now. But unfortunately he has a HUGE entourage that he keeps. His money will soon be gone and that probably means we will see him in more ugly, desperate fights. Maybe he can use his political connections in the Philippines to extract the money he needs.

 

In the Philippines anything is possible. When they broadcast the vote counting for the Presidential elections the Filipino networks have the news anchors pull the votes out of the box. Yet, when they pull the votes out of the box they are gone. They're not even there anymore because somebody stole them. LMFAO.

 

Pac's entourage of no hopers and hangers on will be his downfall, i agree with that

 

He is 38yrs old, and has been relegated to losing debatable decisions against B grade fighters (by b grade, I mean good, fringe world level). Pacquiao isn't going to magically become elite level again, the only way is down.

Even 3-4yrs ago, Horn doesn't even get to the mid rounds.

 

Who misses 80% of his punches, is open for counter punches, uses his head as a battering ram, cuts easily.

The kid will lose the first time he fights a good fighter younger than 38 years old.

I give him props for fighting hard, making a good fight of it, not caving under the pressure of his biggest bout.

But he loses to any top WW. Do you seriously think he could beat Thurman, Garcia, Spence, Porter? And he's calling out Mayweather? The kid has cojones, for sure.

 

Pretty obvious he was shot. He's been in decline for years now and the fact he was fighting someone like Horn suggests his team knew he couldn't compete at elite level anymore. When a fighter in the late stages of his career suddenly goes from fighting the likes of Mayweather, Bradley to a relatively unknown fighter with 17 fights it suggests that fighter isn't the same anymore.

The intensity and work rate has been missing for some time. Fighting Pac used to be like fighting a tornado of fists, he was relentless and would just overwhelm and blitz you with volume and speed, but now he's a shadow of his former self.