Fouling like Ward and Horn in close fights, a new problem for boxing?

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Fouling like Ward and Horn in close fights, a new problem for boxing?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Given that was your whole point....
     
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  2. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its not a tickling contest, I don't have an issue. Plus this is a sport where you are meant to adapt at a split second.

    Horn used what he had and used it well.
     
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  3. Jimako

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    I personally hate fouling in boxing but it's been around since the beginning... I don't mind mauling with punches, mauling with headbutts and rabbit punches I despise. It seems like it's a way to win... I love cleaning boxing with precise punches being landed, but we are humans and humans aren't perfect. So we have to accept it as it is...
     
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  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Some might even say especially in his fights with Tyson, although I don't necessarily think I would.

    :smoking:
     
    Rumsfeld, Jul 2, 2017
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  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    More like an old problem. Watch some tapes, son.
     
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  6. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He kept leading with his head.
     
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  7. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You don't need to be perfect to know that if you lower your head and lead with it instead of a punch your head will get there first.
     
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  8. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    There is no problem, unless you are away from home, really not suppose to win or you might kill a huge money fight if you win.

    For example, let's see if McGregor gets away with any fouling in that freak show, he won't get away with passing wind in Mayweather's general direction.

    But I'll have a pound coin on Mayweather using elbows and forearms if somehow they get close and not even being spoken to.


    That's the problem with boxing, there really is no consistency with refereeing or scoring, if all fighters were allowed to bend the rules then I don't have much of a problem, it only irritates me when one fighter is allowed and the other isn't.

    How many times have you seen the "star" hit low, elbow, use head and nothing is said, then the "away" fighter throws one low blow or maybe holds and instantly a point is taken?

    You need to question referees and judges and not the fighters, in the heat of battle fighters will try everything to gain any sort of advantage and that's why the referee is there, to make sure they stay within the rules.
     
    N17, Jul 2, 2017
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  9. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you wanna call out perceived dirt, you can go a lot further back than Ali.
     
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  10. Manfred

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  11. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That ref cautioned both fighters to watch for head-butting when the one doing the head-butting was Horn.
    He should have been deducted a point for leading with his head. Even in the clinches he was leaning the top of his head into Pac's face and he is taller than Pac. The ref said nothing.
     
    Radrook, Jul 2, 2017
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  12. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dont know where you categorize Chavez with that group. Chavez was an in close infighter, but he rarely held or grappled on the inside like some of the others you listed.
     
    divac, Jul 2, 2017
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  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Refs nowdays are a disgrace. Horn constantly had Pacquiao in a headlock, and when it came time to separate, he'd put his weight down on Pacquiao and shove his head down.
     
    divac, Jul 2, 2017
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  14. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Really that never happens in boxing at all... Especially if one guy is a couple of inches taller...
     
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  15. slash

    slash Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    some people are ignorant lemmings.
     
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