Surprised at the level of outrage and commotion with Horn v Manny compared to Kovalev Ward.

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  1. Pimp C

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    I see you still got my name in your mouth *****. Pac is a legend and won a close fight over a no namer. He wasn't shown the type of respect a legend like him is supposed to get from the judges. If they were going to do that to him it could have been atleast against someone of note. Kovalev hasn't done 1/4 of what Pac has done he's not a legend and got beat twice by Ward who's more accomplished than Kovalev is. Ward won a close fight that could have gone either way in the first fight. For the rematch he had Kovalev mentally beat before the fight and beat the crap outta him in the fight and stopped him. The two are completely different on many levels.

    I talk **** about Pac and his fans but at the end of the day he's a ATG and I have respect for him and what he's done for the sport. He didn't deserve what happened to him on Saturday.
     
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    No **** PBF beat Pac over 2 years ago and he's had 3 fights since then.
     
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  3. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Silly boy.

    You can't consistently break down your opponent while you've been knocked down onto your hands and knees.
    It wasn't closer than the Horn Pac as there were rounds throughout that were very difficult to split between, where there were clear rounds won in the fight with Kovalve and Ward in the initial encounter.

    As the champ he done more than enough to retain his belts. The only thing that Ward did well in the first match up was delivering body shots and smothering Kovalev's work in the second half of the fight. If you were to split the fight up in half and compare dominance, to where you concede and give kovalev the first half of the fight 5-6 rounds and give Ward the other half 7-12 rounds, kovalve clearly had the more defining rounds.

    That robbery was on par with the Holyfield Lewis draw except lewis never had his belts stolen from him.

    In the rematch, it was close and you could argue for either fighter winning until Ward landed the right hand after delivering at least 12 low blows prior to that career defining punch that didn't even floor Kovalev. Yes Kovelav did turn away from borderline blows but that was to test the referee to see if he was going to at least take some action as Ward was guilty of numerous low blows throughout the fight not to mention elbows and headbutts.

    There are people making 20 minute long compilation videos complaining about the headbutts in the Horn Manny fight along with threads on here calling Horn every name under the sun. And some of these evangelists are Ward apologists, who pretended to remain oblivious to the dirty tactics Ward employed in both bouts.

    The hypocrisy is disgusting. What it has shown is that the majority of these hypocrites have no shame, no respect for boxing and no clue how to judge a fight impartially. It is better for them to watch rigged WWE events and justify to themselves that the wins between the competitors are real, then partake in poisoning this great sport through encouraging more corruption by pretending it never occurred simply because their hero benefited.
     
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  4. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    The explanation is simple... Pac is a bigger star than Kovalev, Ward, and everyone on the undercard combined.
     
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    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    The only reason your name frequently pops up in my posts is because I'm fascinated by your lack of self awareness in regards to the points you make which lack any sort of consistency.

    Like a downs child who has no idea what they are saying, they open their mouths and assume what they have uttered it is the stuff of gold.

    And jere you are arguing that Pacquaio should have been given better treatment from the judges which I do partially agree with since the scorecards were too wide of the mark in favor of Horn even though he did win.

    Yet apparently kovalev who was a undefeated champion for over 4 years - gives Ward a chance to contend for the title even when he didn't have to, while letting him have everything which he demanded, including tune ups, arena, judges along with his name in front of his own on the posters - doesn't deserve better treatment after doing more than enough to retain his belts in the first fight!

    If there ever was an argument on who should be given the benefit of the doubt it's the man who came from nothing and fought everyone and anyone on their own terms without any fuss, without any roids, and without any large promotional team pumping billionaires to sell him as p4p all across the globe. Not some little old man looking to reclaim past glory after coming off a lost.
     
  6. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    All I know is that I missed out on buku bucks, do you maggots understand the odds that night?
    BUKU MONEY WAS MISSED!!!!

    I could be wrist deep in cuban cigars from that payday,but I thought that it was a sure KO win for Manny. I don't give a damn about anything but the money that could have been made. Just an example of the prop bets.

    Jeff Horn +425
    Manny Pacquiao -550
    Over 9½ rounds -190
    Under 9½ rounds +165
    Fight goes to decision -130
    Fight doesn't go to decision +100
    Pacquiao wins by decision +119
    Any other result -149
    Horn wins by decision +850
    Any other result -1525
    Fight is a draw +2500
    Any other result -4000
    Horn wins inside distance +690


    Look at that **** right there. I could be finger banging a skank at The Mirage Hotel right now with a pocket full of thousands and ya'll worried about robberies. I wish I had a ****ing time machine so I can go back to Friday morning and place 5 grand on Jeff Horn UD.
     
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  7. Pimp C

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    I feel you on that. A lot of money could have been made by betting on horn.
     
  8. Radrook

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    It's called selective blindness.
     
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    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That last punch wasn't low? LOL! If you aren't making a joke then you need prescription glasses.
     
  10. Braindamage

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    It went to review and was determined to be a legal shot! In the pre fight instructions Weeks showed that a shot to the belt line was good. Was the last shot so low or beneath the belt line that the r ruling shoud be changed? I don't think so! If the shot was determined low and the decesion reversed, I could see how they came to that decesion as well. Won't see me on here crying about it!
     
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    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Listen, this isn't about crying over some idiot boxer who got robbed. This is simply a discussion where I point out that the last blow was clearly below the belt-line. Why you describe it as crying is really beyond me. The evidence is in the video that clearly shows that it is below the belt-line.

    That you refuse to acknowledge that it was and that the ref makes as if it wasn't is really irrelevant to what the video clearly demonstrates.

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    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Whatever! You hate Ward and that's it! If things go to a commission review, you just say Ward paid them off. If Ward has been in VADA testing and tested multiple times, you just say his billionaire backers paid them off. All the while not providing real evidence to support your weak claims. There is nothing you can say against Ward that will make me change my mind. And I'm confident that nothing I say about Ward will change yours. Only difference is, I'm right and your hero lost!:applaudit:
     
  13. mirkofilipovic

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    :aplastao:Lol at people thinking this wasnt low. Just because corrupt boxing officials said it was OKAY does not make it so. Since when have officials always been just with their decisions? Thats why robberies occur and biased referees help protect the hometown fighter. But lets pretend officials are never wrong o_O
     
  14. chacal

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    The amount of commotion is proportional to the amount of ******ed fans a fighter has. Pacman has like 78269387562938746592384675 times more ******ed fans than kovalev. Hence, the difference.
     
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  15. Braindamage

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    It went to review and was determined a legal blow! Why you Kovalovers refuse to acknowledge that is beyond me!