This is what I've been told about Wilder so if you can help me out.

Big hands, do me a favour? Tell me how long Wilder has been pro & how many fights he's had? Then tell me how many GENUINE top 5 HWs he has fought? Then ask yourself why the **** am i a fan of this giant spunk trumpet. His hands?

 

1. I knew you couldn't do it. I asked for a top 10 that didn't include champions (ring and ESPN do - and since unifications are rare and can't be forced, it makes no more sense to say "Wilder hasn't fought Joshua" than it does to say "Joshua hasn't fought Wilder), those who have failed PED tests (and thus aren't eligible to be ranked) and have fought within 12 months. That shouldn't be too difficult if you know HALF of what you claim to know. Their top 10s are really more like a top six since Wilder can't fight himself and can't force a unification (nor can any other champ).

2. Wilder doesn't choose his opponents. If he fought other specific guys, you'd probably criticize them, too. I explained about the short-notice defenses -- those were available guys at the time. Other choices get into who promotes who, who has contracts that tie them to fight on a specific network (say HBO, as Ortiz did for a time) that won't televise PBC fights, and a number of other factors.

Now either tell me you're capable of naming 10 worthwhile heavyweight contenders or just admit you DKSAB. Because if you keep criticizing a guy for not fighting opponents in the top 10 (as Scott, Duhaupas for a time and Stiverne - to name three - have been) then at least name who the heck you think fits that criteria.

 

Name 10 contenders.

You should be able to do that.

You can't.

Just eliminate champions, heavyweights ineligible due to PED test failures and inactives who haven't fought in the last 12 months.

If you're unable to do that, you really should have your card pulled. You're not qualified to post on a boxing message board.

 

Either Wilder is avoided like the plauge by everyone decent, or it's the other way around.

But calling out fighters already tangled up seem to be his trade mark. That and giving oponents ridicolous short camps, but maybe thats to cycle out the marijuana?

 

A few posts ago you said Duhaupas only became ranked top ten after the Wilder fight?

 

YDKSAB because you tried to tell me Scott was a top 10 fighter which he clearly isn't. Odd how Joshua was able to make the Wlad fight so easily and get another belt yet Wilder is fighting Polish and French guys nobody has heard of. I absolutely can and will criticize Wilder for not fighting Top 10 opponents when his contemporaries are somehow managing to do it and they didn't have the benefit of 5 optional fights to do it. You have to really try hard to fight 5 optional fights and not fight one top 10 opponent. You offer nothing but excuses. 5 optional fights at Heavyweight is unprecedented and it is even more unprecedented to fight the 5 corpses Wilder did.

 

LOL why would he not name other champions who are top 10 fighters. What kind of stupid ****ing logic is that? Is that what it has come to excuse Wilder's pitiful resume? It is like you don't know what top 10 means.

 

Correct.

Duhaupas didn't get better after fighting Wilder. He just got recognized. He got a WBC ranking after beating Charr on the road on short notice, which put him in position to fight Wilder.

After that, he knocked out Helenius, which got him more universal recognition as a top 10 fighter. Fighting Wilder raised his profile and beating Helenius proved he was, indeed, top 10 material ... as he had been before despite not being recognized as such because of (a) being French (who takes a heavyweight from France seriously) and (b) not having a push from a top promoter.

I doubt many people had Jeff Horn in their top 10 a week ago. Now they do. He hasn't gotten better, he's just gotten recognition.

 

Scott was top 10 when Wilder knocked him out. He was top 10 at a later point, too.

You can't criticize someone for not fighting a top 10 fighter when you can't even name a top 10. As noted, he HAS fought top 10 opponents. I've shown you so.

Rico, you're capable of intelligence discourse. I've seen it. You know boxing. But you're reluctant to name a top 10 because either (a) you can't, or (b) you know doing so will mean listing someone Wilder has fought, and it makes you look bad.

Put up or shut up.

 

So, using the same logic, Scott came into the top ten by a draw with Glazkov, and then proved he wasn't top ten by loosing to Chisora, but was ranked high because he was well promoted and American?

 

Wilder is trash. Hasn't fought anyone, EVER.

 

Malik Scott has never been a top 10 Heavyweight. Ever. Molina has never been top 10. Spzikla has never been top 10. Duhapaus has never been top 10. Areolla wasn't top 10 when Wilder fought him and was years removed from his best form. Washington isn't and wasn't top 10. Doesn't matter what list I make none of those guys are going to be on it. Stiverne was a top 10 fighter when Wilder beat him. That is literally it. Asking someone to make a top 10 list but not include champions is pointless. You might as well ask me to make a top 10 but don't list non American fighters. Wilder is a manufactured fighter. He is a product. A creation of his awful resume. What are his management afraid of? Tell me.

 

Tell Wilder to stop fighting cab drivers, thanks.