This is what I've been told about Wilder so if you can help me out.

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  1. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    He fought and beat Wlad in his 19th fight. His resume is better than Wilder's already who has double the fights. Lmao.
     
  2. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did Joshua deserve to win his Gold medal? You need to talk to @theanatolian. He has facts on the matter.
     
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    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who did he beat before that?
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because I'm talking about top 10 CONTENDERS.

    You can't force a unification. You can't hold a fighter who has a belt responsible for not fighting another champion when various interests make it basically impossible.

    You also can't in good conscious say 'well he hasn't fought Tyson Fury' when Fury due to PEDs and inactivity is basically retired. That holds true for not criticizing Joshua for not fighting Fury. Same with Povetkin who is blackballed from all rankings due to PEDs.

    The Ring top 10 only includes five active contenders - Wilder can't fight himself, Fury is inactive, Joshua and Parker aren't interested at this point and Povetkin is banned. So that leaves five. And that's including Klitschko, who is contracted to either fight Joshua again or he will retire. So that's four.

    Saying "Wilder won't fight anyone in that top 10" when there are only four, and when his next fight per the WBC has to be against Stiverne (you're the guy criticizing him for fighting only mandatories, so I presume you'll be thrilled to see that rematch) is intellectually dishonest.

    So just man the f*** up and name your list of top 10 contenders. Or say you are incapable of doing so, or that you'd expose yourself if you did.

    You wanna play, get in the sandbox. Don't play this "I'm worried about my e-cred" little girls game -- name 10 contenders. You've gone WAY out of your way to avoid doing so. So if you can't, tell us why.
     
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  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Wilder has twice as many fights and has a worse resume. Now tell me why your question matters? The second Joshua stepped in the ring his resume was better than Bumontay's.
     
  6. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    What about the other two times?

    Why didn't he pursue Fury Ortiz Joshua Wlad etc then?

    Wilder talks a lot but at the end of the day the proof is in the pudding and he didn't fight anyone of note, never has.
     
  7. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So make a list of 10 contenders. What are YOU afraid of?

    And, yes, Scott has been in the top 10 numerous times. He's in the top 10 in boxrec RIGHT NOW if you count only contenders (eliminating PED-banned guys, other champs and active fighters). If you deny that, you're basically saying you don't even follow the sport.
     
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    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Laughable, you're just embarrassing yourself at this point
     
  9. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lmao. Can anyone say, "Stumped"! Lol
     
  10. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Before he beat wlad he had 18 fights, Wilder has 38 but still no one close to Wlad level. Is that to Povetkins fault?
     
  11. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Wilder has had 2 years to do this. Present day is irrelevant. He could have done this already. You understand that right? He has had 5 chances. Fury wasn't suspended for that whole time. Neither was Parker or Joshua or a Wlad or anyone else. Still elected to fight handpicked bums nobody has heard of. Why? I gave you two sources for top 10 fighters. You trying to disqualify people isn't my problem. Wilder has fought one top 10 opponent in almost 40 fights. That is putrid. It reeks of being coddled and in handpicked fights.
     
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  12. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Where's the fault? If you see fault spit it out, lmao.
     
  13. Saintpat

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    The first of those was his first defense, against Molina. Every champ fights a defense like that first, for the most part.

    The other was Duhaupas, who had just beaten Charr on the road. He was certainly as worthy as some of GGG's defenses -- guys like welterweight Brooks, Willie Monroe or Dominic Wade.

    Then why didn't those guys fight Wilder? It's a two-way street.

    The Povetkin thing tied up THREE of those five defenses. I've gone over this ground many times.

    I asked you to name 10 contenders. Are you really that incapable, Rico? If it makes you feel better, name a top 10 that includes champions, guys who are banned for PED cheating and inactive. Throw Tyson Fury in there. Hell, throw Holyfield in if it makes you happy, since he isn't any more of a choice than Fury is.
     
  14. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pro boxing is about money and public interest. I've had zero excitement for Wilders defences. Only 10 000 in Tuscaloosa seem to think otherwise.

    Joshua covers billboards all over the world and has an attendence and performance that even would make Froch shut up.

    If Wilder is as good as you guys say he is his pr team are as bad as everyone else thinks his chin is.
     
  15. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Saint, they are just happy to be able to type the worst about Wilder and that you read it.

    It's the same old garbage daily, and they'll type it 30 different ways. Did you see Breazeale getting shitted on before he fought Joshua? I mean they did say he was garbage truck juice. Did you see Hearn making Breazeale fight anyone before he came to the UK to fight Joshua? Lol