This is what I've been told about Wilder so if you can help me out.

Boxrec? The same people who have Jeff Horn as the #1 welterweight? Why are you having to qualify who can and can't be ranked? It shows how bad Wilder's resume is. I gave you 2 separate independent sources and Wilder isn't fighting anyone on it but 1 guy. Ever.

 

I don't see a fault, only a ******ed question. Comparing a 19 fight guy vs a 38 fight guy, and on top of that removing the too name from the underdog.

 

Joshua just fought Wlad. Wilder wouldn't risk that. Game over.

 

Are you saying Parker is interested? Wilder's team has tried to make that fight. They said, 'Hey, don't fight that last-second replacement, let's do this in a couple of months' when Hughie pulled out. And after that they tried again. He isn't interested.

Joshua's promoter has tried to offer him a consolation prize, Dylian White, and obviously isn't interested in making Joshua-Wilder. Is that Wilder's fault?

You're the embarrassment -- you talk about not fighting top 10 guys and can't even name 10 heavyweight contenders. Hell, I'm not sure at this point if you can name ONE.

Let's make it REAL simple -- name five CONTENDERS who you say would beat Wilder. That should be really easy. Not unifications that may not happen for a year or more, not PED cheats who are ineligible to fight for titles, not retirees like Tyson Fury who may never fight again (just people who have fought in the last 12 months). Can you even do THAT?

 

I'll not kick a man who is down. Ill embarrass you no further. Good night.

 

Povetkin isn't the reason Wilder fought those handpicked optional fights. Nobody forced Wilder to fight them. He did it willingly. Because Povetkin failed a test or needed more time that doesn't mean Wilder has to face a guy from Poland or France or a shot to **** Chris Arreloa. The guy has had over 2 years and 5 fights to fight a meaningful fight and couldn't do it. That isn't Povetkin's fault. Do you see how twisted and backwards your logic is?

 

Can you even read? I'm talking about contenders, the people who champions fight. Not guys who are banned, not guys who are retired, not other champs when unifications can't be made. Contenders. That's the qualification.

You cite RingTV, which has Tyson "I'm Retired and Eating Hedgehogs and Banned for PEDs" Fury atop its rankings, and also includes PED cheat Povetkin, who can't fight for ANY title right now.

Don't criticize other rankings if you can't name 10 heavyweight contenders. Geez. You're not even a novice if you can't do that. You should wear a headgear when you post like the other amateurs.

 

Firstly, don't you dare compare a champion like Kell Brook to a coddled nobody like Wilder. Brook travelled to the states and ripped the IBF title off a very highly regarded champion at the time, and then moved up two weight-classes to fight a P4P fighter. Brook has filled football stadiums and headlined PPV shows and fought the best in two weight classes.

Let's not compare a joke like Wilder to a champion like Brook shall we.

Back to the topic.

Arreola mysteriously appeared in the top 15 of the rankings when there were rumours that Wilder were to face him. Pretty convenient right? The other guys weren't exactly high in the WBC rankings either, none of them were top 5 am I correct in saying that I could be wrong.

Dillian Whyte is ranked #4, so he would be the highest ranked defense Wilder has ever made if he decided to face him, not only that he is being offered over 4x the money of any of those defences and suddenly he's "above" fighting him but was happy to face old and shot fighters like Arreola for peanuts.

Wilder doesn't do himself any favours at all.

 

You voluntarily give up income? Wilder should have not fought in January 2016 (against Szpilka) because Povetkin wanted more time? He should just sit back and not get paid. Same with Arreola and Washington. Povetkin created those situations and Wilder said, "OK, I'll fight whoever I can fight on this notice for what the promoter is paying."

That's business. It is logic. Your way says, "OK, Povetkin failed a test, the WBC says he can fight someone else while we sort this out, but he shouldn't do so." Those had to be on short notice because he had a full training camp for Povetkin for a May fight and they put together a fight in June so as not to waste that and allow him to at least make a payday.

 

I gave you two choices to look at. ESPN doesn't have Fury ranked. Sorry.

 

You seem to be having a hard time understanding this. Nowhere did I say Wilder shouldn't fight. Furthermore nowhere is it written in stone that Wilder HAD to fight Spzilka, Duhapaus, Arreloa, Molina, or Washington because they were OPTIONAL fights. They weren't Mandatory fights. Wilder hand picked those fights for a reason. A reason which you seem to not understand. Do you understand that Wilder has had 5 optional fights with no politics or Mandatory fights to get in the way? Yet he someohow fought 5 horrible opponents. You seem to not understand that part. Povetkin didn't and doesn't dictate who Wilder fights.

 

GGG fought a welterweight. You say he should fight top 10 fighters. I presumed you meant in his weight division. Brook was NOT a top 10 middleweight.

Who in the world ranked Whyte No. 4? You? So you have a No. 4 contender -- where's the rest of your top 10?

And Wilder has to fight Stiverne or a unification next unless Stiverne takes step-aside money (he has said he won't) or unless Wilder wants to give up the WBC title (don't be foolish).

This is beyond ridiculous. Youv'e said like 10 times that Wilder won't fight anyone in the top 10. I challenged you to name 10 contenders. You cannot. I even made it easier, name five contenders who you say will beat Wilder. You won't because it will make you look bad when he beats one of them, and we can't have that given that you have more than 40,000 posts in less than 3,500 days as a member of this site -- an average of one post nonstop every single 2 hours since joining. Which is a bit disturbing.

I'll be happy to continue this discussion when you take 2 hours away from posting to do some research and come up with 10 heavyweight contenders.