What does this say about Floyd's win over Pac?

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  1. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Mayweather had the height and reach on Pac, aging favors the lengthier boxer over the shorter one who has more ground to cover. We seen this time and time again.

    Pacman has ceased to be an educated swarmer for a long time. Since around the time of the Mosley fight and Marquez III, age evolved him into more of a counter puncher.
     
  2. Liquid Fire

    Liquid Fire Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Ammo? Do you think you're a soldier?? What did Floyd do in that fight that ruined him? He looked pretty much pre Floyd Pac (ageing but still a force) in the Bradley 3 and Vargas fights as he did fighting Bradley 2 & Algieri to me. You must ave forgot he fought after Floyd ha ha

    If Floyd ruined him what did JMM do? Tickle him?
     
  3. Daddy

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    5:53 seconds of the video: Roach: "Yes, yes, yes, the thing is, I think 2 years ago, Mayweather did not want to fight Manny. But now, at this point in his career, he's so close to the end of his career he wants to finish undefeated. (mumbles something) Why take that chance. When they were in their prime 2 years ago, a more interesting fight, i'm sure both fighters wanted to make that fight."
    Your point at the 2:28 mark is the "Blood test", turn down.
    Mayweather, tho not scared of Manny, factually did not agree to fight until after the KO loss by JMM. This is Money Mayweather we're talking about here. The fight could have been made years prior to the year they did fight.

    However, neither of us know for sure, only the fighters themselves know WHY the fight was made or not made when it was. Trainers, promoters, or who ever can chime in all they want. Ultimately its up to the both of them.
     
  4. Pimp C

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    No PBF did agree to everything all he wanted was random blood testing back in 2009. He agreed on purse split he agreed on who would walk in first he agreed on the over the weight fine that Pac wanted he agreed. Pac didn't agree because of testing and went off to fight Clottey a fight no one demanded.
     
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  5. Pretty Boy Floyd

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    JMM Ko'd pac in 2012 Roach in that video openly admits in 2009 many turned down the fight because he didn't want to be drug tested what are you talking about?

    Imagine floyd had turned down the fight because he refused the random drug testing? all hell would brake loose!

    Bunch of blatant hypocrites and you know it.
     
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Of course they would have run PBF out of they sport had he done that.
     
  7. Manfred

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    He was in a far better state from day one.
     
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  8. N17

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    He may well have beaten any version but we will never know because Mayweather only grew a pair after Pacquaio was iced by Marquez and was well and truly on the slide.

    I'm just stating a fact, Mayweather fought Pacquaio after Marquez knocked him out, that's how it played out.

    I have my opinion and you have yours, I believe history will look back and view my version of events will be the more popular, Mayweather waited it out until Pacquaio was far from him best and damaged.

    Where was Mayweather when Pacquaio was blasting out my fellow Brit Hatton? When Pacquaio was smashing Margarito to pieces?

    Oh that's right, he was settling out of court for mouthing out, making accusations and excuses for not fighting Pacquaio.

    Like I said, I'm British, I'm not a fan of either but I know what I saw for all those years, excuse after excuse from Mayweather until he saw Pacquaio was vunerable.

    But, I will call it smart because it was smart, Mayweather waited until Pacquaio wasn't the force he was and got paid seriously large, he played it well.
     
  9. N17

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    I'm not bias, I don't have any skin in the game, do I need to apologise that I don't see their history your way.

    Yes, both were past their best, both had aged but Pacquaio was a lot further down that slide than Mayweather.

    It's not difficult to understand, some fighters can age overnight, some it takes longer, some don't age at all, Pacquaio was damaged goods by the time Mayweather fought him.
     
  10. tinman

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    All this stuff about Mayweather might have beaten a prime Pacquiao. LMFAO. This is a former Flyweight champ. Duran, Tito, Leonard, Hearns, Pryor, etc. They all completely batter Pacquiao senseless. Because again this a former Flyweight.

    How good can Floyd be if people are giving prime Pacquiao a live chance against Floyd?
     
  11. yesihavearm2

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    I have to agree with this post.

    The Pac from the DLH/Hatton/Cotto run was a completely different fighter to the one that PBF faced. By that point Pac had already lost to both Marquez and Bradley.

    PBF is always going to be a tough ask for Pac because of the physical advantages PBF holds, but I believe it would have been a much different fight had they fought in 2009/2010. I'm not saying Pac wins, but it's a different fight.
     
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  12. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    He may well have been, we will never know.
     
  13. tinman

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    Does anybody really think that if you shrink Floyd down to a Manny Pacquiao sized fighter that Floyd would be able to just take Pacs punch, keep Pax honest, etc.

    Pacquiao is a better p4p fighter.
     
  14. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    PBF's style will always give Pac problems, but the Pac who run over those 3 fighters had me believing. I picked against him 3 times in a row on those fights, he had no right to win any of them.

    H2H you always gotta go with PBF but in terms of achievements what Pac did was amazing.
     
  15. tinman

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    If Floyd was as small as Pac then Pac would walk though him.