What does this say about Floyd's win over Pac?

What the hell are you taking about? Manny ko'd both hatton and cotto in 2009 the SAME year PACQUIAIO Turned down the fight with floyd because he refused to be drug tested. Floyd agreed to all of the terms to make that fight DIRECTLY AFTER manny ko'd hatton and then cotto, many was coming of 2 straight knock out wins and refused to fight floyd because he refused to be randomly drug tested.

All the other terms were agreed to, the only issue was many refusing the random blood tests, if that is not suspicious i don't know what is. What's even more suspicious is that ever since floyd called for those random blood tests many has never had another knock out.

 

Why is everything all on PBF? He was the cash cow and was the guy everyone wanted to fight Pac wanted to be where he was. It wasn't PBF's job to go around and chase down Pac and get the fight he was P4P #1 not the other way around remember that. Why didn't you ask Pac why didn't he just do the random blood testing and the fight would have already happen. You have double standards. Roach told you why the fight didn't happen back in 2009 it was because they didn't want testing but you continue to say PBF was full of excuses and it was PBF's fault. I mean how much more evidence do you need? If PBF waited for Pac got KOEd by JMM, a guy he shut out I might add, then why did he agree to a 50/50 split Pac's weight fine if when this happened way before Pac got knocked out? Of course you have no answer for that. So just continue to spin and spread lies and bitterness and I'll continue to deal in facts until enjoy this video from Roach ethering you lie spreaders again.

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So I come back to find the thread has been derailed by 'Pretty Boy Floyd' talking about the politics of making the MayPac fight.
The point was that the Pacquiao who Floyd fought was far more past prime than Floyd was, despite Floyd being past prime...Pac is unanimously seen (other than biased *****s) as being in a far worse condition than Floyd.

We have been further informed thanks to Jeff Horn with regards to the competitive scope of a Manny Pacquiao in the last phase of his career. It does unfortunately raise further doubts over the value of Floyd's win.

 

This is the million dollar question, everybody likes to ignore.

 

And why do people like you fail to admit or realize is that so was PBF. You act as if PBF wasn't better back then as well. It doesn't only work for one fighter it works for both Peak Pac was still never going to be able to deal with PBF's ability to control range and dictate distance he was also never going to have the reflex advantage in the fight either. That's what you don't understand. Also this was the same Pac who was also going life and death with JMM to, a guy PBF shut out. I thought I'd just throw that out there to destroy your argument.

 

Threads like this often go off topic its the nature of the beast,its very convenient of you to want to steer it back on course at this point after such overwhelming evidence has been produced proving everybody wrong. For your information i also wasn't the one who took it off topic either but nice of you to put the blame on me, now i know how floyd feels, i was simply correcting somebody who claimed floyd ducked manny in his prime, which has been proven to be completely false.

 

They will try to but I won;t let them. What made it even worse for them is that after not wanting to do blood testing for PBF and for many fights after he does it for Rios. He does it for Rios but won't do it for his career defining fight and career high payday in PBF. That is very telling. To be honest Pac would have looked much better if he had never tested in his career than to start doing so for a punching bag in Rios.

 

You need to stop bringing up Pac and JMM. With almost 100,000 posts on a boxing website you should know that boxing triangle theories do not work.

 

I honestly didn't read it properly as I have rightly dismissed it as derailed babble. But if you insist, you are wrong and paranoid for assuming I think Pac, Roach, Arum are completely innocent in this. This is besides the point of the thread, but I guess threads based on an established point are often derailed for that very reason. You're only here to derail and moan.
You're just an all-around pointless poster.

 

Reflex advantage? Pacquiao had the quicker hands and feet. How do you think he was able to generate his signature angles? How was able to throw combos that fast? Pacquiaos recovery time was faster than Floyd. By the time Pac threw a punch he was already in position to thrown another one. There was a scientist who broke down Pacquiaos style. And he said the one thing Pac did that was incredible was he his recovery time after throwing a punch was better than everybody else's.

 

In this case they did. PBF beat both of them case closed.

 

Neither one in their prime. Pac beats JLC inside 8 rounds prime for prime. Doesn't mean triangle theories work.

 

Pimp C is that type of guy who thinks Terry Norris is better than Ray Leonard or Larry Holmes is better than Ali.

 

If you have nothing to hide, why not take the test? An event of that magnitude and you refuse to draw blood? Both guys were subject to the same test.Its no secret that boxers and trainers had suspected and even accused Pac of using some type of illegal substance at the time. Floyd wanted to make sure they were both on a even playing field

No i am here to correct people spreading false information and providing cold hard fact's instead.

 

Spoken like a true novice. Pac never had faster hands or faster feet than PBF period and I've always said this. At no point in their careers could Pac throw one punch faster than PBF period, which is always more useful in a boxing match. Pac could throw faster in combination but not a single punch. The only guy who could throw one punch faster than PBF that he fought was Zab Judah who was able to beat him to the punch. He also never had faster feet it just looked like that because he jumped around a bunch of plodders expending unnecessary energy. When he fought Bradley he didn't even look to have faster feet than him. PBF's feet were always faster and he had better footwork by miles to. All that angles work rake and combo punching means nothing when you get in there with someone who can control range dictate distance and can counter. As Pac fans found out when he faced master boxers in PBF and JMM.