Im sorry but if GGG beats Canelo no way is he p4p #1

I agree. GGG beating a smaller Canelo isn't a better win than Ward beating Kovalec, who's #1 P4P. With that said GGG's stock would rise IMO and I would give him his due if he did beat Canelo.

 

I think there's no clear p4p now. We are used to floyd's epoch, when it was so obvious who was the number one. That time is gone, now the distance among the fighters is not so big. I guess you can defend like 3 or 4 fighters being #1 p4p without going full ******, and make a decent point of every one of them. That's good imho. Things wont change if gg wins. It wont change if canelo wins neither.

 

It's harder for the bigger men to be considered such as they move through lesser divisions meaning a shallower talent pool. No problem with Ward over GGG here but I think p4p is ultimately going to come down to Lomachenko & Crawford over the next year or two.

 

Canelo and Ward are more skilled than Triple G and Kovalev. They have better punch variety. Triple G and Kovalev (compared to Canelo and Ward) are known as bigger punchers with more power (than Canelo and Ward respectively), and are natrually the bigger man and have been at the weight class longer.

Canelo, like Ward who moved up a weight class to fight Kovalev, is moving up a weight class fight Triple G. So there are definetly parallels between the two fights.

However in terms of what is a better win, Ward over Kovalev compared to the winner of Canelo Triple G, there are many things to take into account, as far as who is more deserving of P4P #1 : Ward or Canelo/Triple G. As we know, it's not just the fact that you beat someone good, it's how you performed in the bout and if there was controversey.

You first really have to ask yourself who is a better fighter : Triple G or Kovalev. Personally, I think Kovalev is more straight forward and basic than Triple G. Kovalev primarily just throws jabs and straights. Triple G while his punch variety isn't of the Ward / Canelo level, I think it's better than Kovalev. So I think there's a real question as to whether or not a win over Kovalev is better than a win over Triple G or Canelo. I think you also have to consider how much trouble Ward had in the first fight with Kovalev and that there was some controversey in the rematch.

If lets say Canelo stops Triple G, but does it without controversey, like there not being belt-line punches or low blows. If Triple G stops Canelo, but he does it without the fouling that Kovalev did, in cleaner fashion, then you have to factor that in when comparing them to Ward's performances vs Kovalev.

If Canelo vs Triple G is a close decision, then you really have to look at how each fighter peformed. Don't let the judges scores determine where you rank the fighter P4P, look at the performances, whether there was fouling, etc. It's not just as simple as saying if fighter A beats fighter B no way is he P4P. I'm going to watch Canelo vs Triple G, then after the bout, rate each fighter's performances and compare them to the performance by Ward. And also compare that to Floyd vs Conor, and come up with a P4P ranking later this year.

The best P4P fighters may be Ward, Canelo, Triple G, and Floyd Mayweather if he is to continue after fighting McGregor. There are other fighters at lower weights who can get in that debate as well, we need to really see how Canelo Triple G plays out, and how each guy performs. In terms of P4P, it's not just about winning against the best, it's about how you perform, and when you fight the best you have to perform at a very high level to win.

 

I think it depends on the nature of the win. If it is a dominant clear point win or a KO, some or most will put GGG on top.
Ward could have been a deadset clear number 1, but his 2 wins over kovalev was controversial. For the moment he is p4p best.
Both lomachenko and Crawford's next opponent don't carry the clout as much as canelo so a win over them will not carry them by pass Ward.

 

Hi shockmaster bye shockmaster

 

He isn't going to beat Canelo.... SOWWEY

 

Right, cause won't either one them try and fk with Ward, riding or walking.

 

Don't be ****ing foolish. P4P is not an official title, it isn't purely determined on the merit of win, loss, or draw.

It's an impression, an opinion. Short answer, if Golovkin wins, it depends on how Golovkin looks in beating Canelo.

If Golovkin looks poor and 75% of the collective media feel he lost...or say he gets a controversial stoppage after hitting Canelo in the balls while down on most people's cards, than chances are he don't deserve the #1 spot.

But say, Golovkin knocks out Canleo impressively or boxes his ears off, he might deserve the #1 spot. If it's a competitive fight and both guys look good, maybe both their stocks raise. If it's a competitive fight, and both guys look awful, maybe both their stocks fall.

P4P is an impression....

 

Kovalev is far more proven @ 175 than Canelo is @ 160. No way does a win over Canleo @ 160 put the Triple Duck ahead of Ward P4P.

Not even close...

 

I'm sorry, this logic is a little too subtle for the OP, Pimp C, Nay Sayer and their alts. Can you explain it as if you were speaking to a three year old?