Mike Tyson "weak" opposition

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  1. superman1986

    superman1986 Active Member banned Full Member

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    I'm assuming they would win. But let's not pretend it would be easy. We did see Lewis vs Tucker and Bruno Tubbs vs Bowe, Holmes vs Berbick, Williams, Spinks. Those fights weren't exactly annihilations. All were competitive
     
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    To be honest I'd pick a young Mike Tyson to beat many of those 64- 67 contenders back to back in the same night. And I'm not joking. Cooper, London and Mildenberger could all be taken on Friday. In a total of 3 rounds. Send in Cleveland Williams while we're at it.
     
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    I didn't see him hurt in the 2nd round so point it out. But it couldn't have been as bad and as visible as Foreman stumbling across the ring in Larry Merchants words "this difficult end of the round for Foreman".
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There was a thread about it son, and go and watch the 10th round. Tyson trumps any stumbling made by Foreman against a prime Holyfield......
     
  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you want me to prove you wrong yet again empty head? I'll say it again, Tucker said he believed he broke the hand prior to their bout. You've got to be Sandra's alter ego? No way can two people be so dense at the same time.......
     
  6. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look Perry I posted Tuckers comment he himself made....... Yah goofy kid
     
  7. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No Sandra, you posted what goes off in that empty head of yours......
     
  8. Fergy

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    To be honest, every dominant champion has had this criticism at some point. That their opposition was weak.. Too fat, thin, small, big, young, old etc. Louis had it, marciano, Ali s first career, Holmes. They all suffered the weak opposition critics. It's probably a case of them been a high level above the other guys that makes them look so inferior. Ali's post foreman wins aren't classed as such because by then he'd slipped himself, so the level of opponent s became that much closer. I'm not saying Tyson s opponents were nessecerily weak, but that a young dominant champion makes them look that way. It's a combination of a talented confident champ beating guys and doing it for a number of years successfully. They could be top level contender but the man at the very top is above them In skill, strength, speed etc.
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    What the hell am I making up?

    Larry Holmes wasn't on a losing streak and on a two year retirement?

    Tubbs really didn't eat his way out of a $50,000 bonus, have his trainer walk out on him "for being in no shape to fight" and had not won a fight against a rated opponent for three years?

    Bruno wasn't inactive for a year, wasn't 0-1 against rated opponents over the last three years?

    I didn't make any of that up. The best time to beat a fighter has to be when the guy hasn't fought at world level for years. What am I missing here?

    Thomas had not won at world level for years. Even Spinks had not really won at world level for years. Biggs had not won at world level at all.

    This leaves 5 good opponents for Tyson in Berbick, Tucker, Smith, Douglas and Spinks. Mike is 4-1 with them. It's the truth.
     
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  10. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Tyson never beat a guy that a great fighter would lose to. That's the bottom line.

    And it goes for most champions too. That's why it is a bit foolish to knock another era and make one champion out to be better or worse than another champion. Ali would not lose to Tony Tubbs and Tyson would not lose to Brian London. That's all you can say.

    It's rare that one great champion beats a guy that another great champion at his best would lose to and kind of impossible to prove it.
     
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    So then why is his competition specifically knocked for being weak compared to any other eras, especially the era of sub 200 lbs heavies? I mean a guy like Tubbs would be a challenge for a modern champion like Riddick Bowe, but few and far between would a sub 200 lbs heavyweight challenger be a challenge for Bowe or Lennox Lewis, etc.
     
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    Foreman ain't the Holy man and if Tyson landed the same shots on him Holyfield did as he could match Holyfield handspeed in those days with a lot more power, Foreman would have the referee standing over him counting.
     
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  13. Bokaj

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    Perhaps, perhaps not. Tillis was nothing special, but he gave Mike some trouble.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    i dunno mate u appear to be arguing uphill there
     
  15. HerolGee

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    he was a designated Preacher.