WBSS super-middleweight competition update - Groves vs Eubank Jr set

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  1. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Lemme guess who 32 is and the odd one out, I actually thought Cox was 40+, did he go up after beating the cab driver on the weekend? Should have gone backwards
     
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  2. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    http://boxrec.com/boxer/398342

    Cox is 42
     
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  3. Daydorail

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    I'd guess QTR final line up as
    Groves Vs Brant
    Smith. Vs Yildram WBC
    Eubank Vs Cox IBO
    Brahmer Vs Skoglund
     
  4. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    32 was Brant, Cox is 42. I forgot about him lol.

    9 names because Abraham/Eubank Jr are squaring off.
     
  5. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, depends how much say the orgs have. Because Smith fighting Yildirim would make sense as Yildirim was going to be the mandatory for the WBC, but if Smith really gets to choose surely he'd prefer Cox, Skoglund or even Brant.
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I think you're letting the performance against Zurdo mess with your head a little, CEJ fights nothing like Ramirez, and without a doubt in my mind Ramirez shuts CEJ out in a similar fashion. As far as Smith and Murray go, no they're not all that great, but both of them gave career best performances against AA, and still couldn't quite get the job done, Murray was holding the majority of the second half, and Smith was almost stopped in the rematch.

    IMO Krasniqi, De Carolis, Smith, Murray, Sjekloca and Stieglitz are all a level or two above O'Sullivan, Blackwell and Quinlon, and from what I've seen post his CEJ match, Chudinov is about as average as they come. Murray handled Blackwell far easier than CEJ, and I'd pick everyone of the guys I listed on AA's resume to beat the guys on CEJ's resume.

    CEJ has faced one truly live body, and lost to him 8-4. He hasn't improved, he hasn't changed, he's still the same guy. CEJ can't outmuscle AA, he's not strong enough, so the holding probably won't be as effective, most guys don't lunge in on AA without paying a price, and even now, most opponents are heading in the opposite direction as AA walks them down. I see CEJ lunging in with attack after attack eating massive straight rights and jabs, both of which AA still throws very well, over and over until one of them finally catches him and does some damage, and possibly won't recover, and he'll be stopped late.
     
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  7. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Dont know why you liked this KiwiMan its bull ****

    Jr didn't lose to BJS 8-4, he could have easily been given the decision and it was a split decision and BJS was the house fighter on a Warren card

    Jr didn't lose imo, but he deserved too, he started too slow

    Jr has improved a huge amount its not even arguable, he is 10x the fighter he was then. Work rate alone has improved 10s since then and obviously he has beaten better competition then pre Saunders. Abraham is the best fighter he has fought beat him and even CST won't be able to deny it.

    Jr doesn't fight anything like Ramirez and its true Abe will have far more chances in this fight but he's not going to beat a hungry young fighter that has too many physical advantages and a terrific chin.
     
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  8. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haha I'll let you and @CST80 debate this one out, must say it's strange to have one person telling me Eubank Jr will beat Groves and the other telling me he won't even beat Abraham :smoking:

    (P.S. I've always been perfectly happy to like people's opinions even if I disagree / think they're mistaken, that goes for some of your posts too :))
     
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  9. dellboi94

    dellboi94 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hope Jamie Cox gets drawn against Eubank Jr. Jr will bash him up.
     
  10. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Well you only have to wait a week to see CST dksab (or at least picks with his heart in these match ups, he hates Jr for sure) and I am the Undisputed, reigning and defending Kiwiman Challenge champion, that counts for a lot in your opinion surely?
     
  11. Elvizzz

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    CEJr will beat Abraham ofcourse... Abraham is not prime anymore and Jr is getting better all the time...
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Hey guess what, I picked Berchelt over Vargas, Sor Rungvisai over Gonzalez and Horn over Pacquiao, and laid out the ultimately very valid reasons why on Kirk's thread, as @KiwiMan can attest, so eat a dick.:deal: No one will ever top those three predictions in a 7 month span on this site, ever.:deal:

    The only time I pick with my heart is when they're genuinely 50/50, like Brook/Spence and Wlad/AJ. I'm not picking with my heart on CEJ/AA.
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    So wait, you hype the match saying AA is no gimme and will be a stern ver y tough test for Jr., but when I step on your boyfriend's toes in a big way and lay out a reason why AA will beat him, your inner fangirl comes out baring your claws and fangs I see.:lol:

    I guess you really don't believe anything you said anc actually do think Jr. will sweep this tournament.:lol: And you say IDKSAB.:qmeparto:
     
  14. james5000

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    Even a broken clock is right twice a day CST, were your valid reasons robberies? 7 months is a long time to get 3 picks right!!!

    Abraham isn't a gimme, solid fighter, it will just make Jr look better when he wins
     
  15. Price is back

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    Can't wait this will be very exciting.