Ward vs. Bellew @ CW.

Why dont you two just get on Skype and JO in front of each other with your Artur Beterbiev masks on?

 

Because we're too busy laughing at you and your compulsive obsession with GGG. It's also funny that in your haste to return here, that you miss spelt your own username, I guess the main thing was getting back on here to resume your GGG mission. Admittedly I admire your determination to keep coming back here in spite of the entire forum knowing what a sorry joke you are and in spite of being permanently banned through numerous accounts.

I've never seen anything like it.

You're like a piece of excrement that never flushes down the toilet no matter how hard you continuously push down on the lever

 

How dense are you! Are your powers of retention gone? I said immediaty after the first fight that Kov won. My argument wasn't for Ward winning, rather, it was against a people calling it a robbery and that ward paid everyone off, from the judges, refs and the commission.

The second fight was a straight up ass beating of Kovalev! Weeks pointed out where a low blow was and said a shot to the waiste band was good. The Ward haters then try to say that every body shot in the 8th that Ward landed was low. Anyone with unbiased eyes can see the first body shot in the 8th that crumpled Kov was on the belt line. The one that ended the fight was very close, but it was reviewed by the NSAC and determined to be legal. Now the Kovalovers claim that Ward's billionaire backers paid them off. Lol

 

Ward had that reputation since Kessler

 

Did Kessler get screwed by the judges and had his pubic area used as a punching bag?

 

You said Judges and Officlals. I assumed the ref was a part of that.

 

So you are of the view that kovalev won yet you are here telling me that I have no credibility because I backed kovalev to beat Ward to which we now agree that he did!

You are slowly beginning to really live up to your name. At least try and have a consistent theme to your silly arguments.

As for all the body shots, we can ALL see for a fact that the final two blows were far below the points where Weeks said was good.
It doesn't matter what the NSAC says, their word doesn't make those illegal blows suddenly become legal.

If a police officer shoots an unarmed citizen by mistake, then lies and tells his superiors that he was acting in self defence. The case is then brought before the supreme court who rule the decision in favour of the defendant, then does their final word suddenly translate to mean that the officers actions were lawful?

 

You lack credibility because you make accusations that can't substanciated! No proof Ward pays judges, refs and the commission off. No proof Ward uses PED's , yet you keep yammering on and on about it. As far as the low blows, it was close no doubt. Was it so terrible a shot that the decision should be reversed? Another claim, that Ward is an over the top dirty fighter. Yet in both fight there were no head butts, or elbows. Bottom line Ward is a damn good fighter and showed grit and skill and took Kov out clean. Ward's victories diminish Kov in no way whatso ever. Both men are top notch competitors. It's like you and me debating, sometimes you get on the ropes and get me with some god shot and sometimes I catch you with a good counter evey now and then! But when it's said and done, I will have my hand raised in victory!

 

When there is both substantial circumstantial and physical evidence pointing towards roids and corruption then you can be sure as hell that I'm going to "yap" on about it, regardless who or how established the fighter is. Better to ask questions rather than pretending that something staring directly in your face isn't there.

And we have a host of anecdotal evidence which heavily suggests flagrant in-the ring cheating, wanton roid use and refs and judges on the agreed payroll to allow Ward to fight without rules in bouts both past and present.

Sadly there are individuals like yourself who prefer to believe in fairy tales and take the words from agenda driven organizations and officials as gospel and act as if corruption is a far fetched impossibility. Even when there is still til this day, a host of promoters who are still flying high in their careers who have a historical background mired in corrupt affairs and shady investigations by law enforcement.

Understand I'm not here to "win" any argument, simply I'm here to reveal the truth in all matters relating to boxing, and dispel foolish and often naive thinking when it comes to viewing fights in spite of the cost of unpopularity, hate and ridicule.

 

Truth! You can't handle the truth! The real truth is, you can't stand Ward and you're upset that he keeps one upping Kovalev! The truth is, these accusations never came up until the Kovalev fights. That's what you guys do! You stand mute until a fighter you don't like fights someone you respect. Then when the fight is made, you lot start throwing out absurd accusations. You did it with Jacobs too.
Funny thing is, I don't see you mention the Rigo fight! That fight was on the undercard and yet nothing from the so called protectors of the sport. And you have the nerve to call me a hypocrite? PLEEEEEASE!

 

I'm far too lazy to go back and search your posts looking for a switch with which to discipline you. Perhaps you are among the reasonable of the anti-Ward tribe. There must be a few. Let's just say that the tone of Kovalev fans prior to both fights was far different from this and your earlier post that I quoted. To declare that Ward is afraid to face any other LHW is, imo, intellectually dishonest.

As to the judging and with the perspective of a few months and having looked at both fights various times and clips and analysis from the brilliant and moronic alike, I still think that Kov won the first fight , though not as widely as I did in the couple of hours right after. Poor judging? Maybe. "Favorable judging"? As in corrupt? I dunno' man; everybody likes to think they are good and true at their job. Especially at this level. The scores were unanimous and close. I'm not having any conspiracy theories. Ward UD Kovalev was a close decision I disagree with. That is all.

Then, despite a gajillion posts and threads all of which intended to say "Ward is a big ***** and will NEVER have the nuts to give Sergey the rematch", the rematch was signed. To the credit of BOTH men, there was no interim fight. No let's-take-a-showcase-and-cash-in-a-bit. Just one elite macthup with a close and disputed result right into the next one.

The second fight, Sergey fought Ward's fight. He was just as rough and tumble on the inside and in the clinches as Ward with pushing and shoulders and hitting borderline behind the head, etc...guess he figured that he had tried to box too much in the first fight. He decided to take the advice of his fanboys and bully Ward into submission and then KHTFO. We saw how that worked out. He got his ass kicked. That simple. After numerous slowmo-multiple angle analyisis (some of it very good), there was one legit low blow right at the end. ONE. While Sergey was bent over trying to hide from being wobbled and then subjected to a vicious, LEGIT body attack. The ref was out of position to see it, didn't call it and seeing that Sergey was not defending himself other than to turn away and probably taking into account that Ward was committing 100% to every brutal shot, he stopped the fight.

If that final blow had been called low and The Krusher given time to recover, what do you think would have followed? Seriously.

Kovalev has nothing to be ashamed of. He was bested by an ATG level fighter. He did himself proud in both contests.

As to who can beat Ward? We'll see. But to call him any kind of duck is infantile.

 

I would pick Ward to beat Bellew at any weight. Bellew only has a punchers chance, and not a very good one.

 

Is Bellew still Boxing,only see him dressed in a suit commentating and being Sky TVs pro pundit.Mr Celeb since he beat the Wonky Donkey.Just suit Wardy.

 

Nice story, still doesnt change the fact that Ward was hitting repeatedly below the navel, far too close to his Privates for them to be legal. Any decent unbiased ref would have deducted points for that, and yes these had an impact on Kova's performance. I feel Ward is afraid of the other Light heavies, the things he had to go through to get the victory against Kovalev, I am sure Ward is thinking just how lucky he was to get the victory in the first fight, and just how fortunate he was to have his biased referee enable his dirty tactics in the second. Ward contrary to popular belief has a brain, and since he has a brain it probably comes to his mind on just how beneficial it is to get biased officials on your side and not neutral officials. Ward even with his officials on his side is never going to always get away with a gift decision, and in the talent stacked lightheavy division he knows his luck is going to run out even if he fights anyone with the refs and judges on his side.

Yes Ward is an ATG, that bloated up Middleweight in Abraham was such a destroyer, and that Carl Froch was so technically superb, so much technical genius behind him, he never gets outboxed (sarcasm).

 

Behind closed doors. Not televised!