If Deontay Wilder is this bum who only beats cans and windmills his shots then how come

I think everyone would agree he was dominated by Savon in the first round. Cammarelle and Dychko were Close fights that could've gone either way. But I thought he Lost to Cammarelle too.

 

but you just said that you produced a fact based on his belief?

you DID say this.

why?

 

Joshua lost 3 fights at Olympics and got very generous decisions. Hell no that mofo is not winning clean, he's on growth hormone and anabolic steroids.

 

I know what you're driving at, but you're mixing up logical concepts based on misleading terminology. He isn't saying a belief is a fact in and of it's own accord (although, there is no reason a belief can't also be a fact, but that is another argument). Rather, he's saying that the fact of someones belief means x. I.e, belief "a" doesn't necessarily have or not have truth in itself (which is what you were suggesting his position was). The holding of belief "a" is simply a fact, let's call that fact item "b". "B" is a fact that in his mind is corollary to condition "c".

This is extremely irrelevant and esoteric, i don't really care about the underlying argument behind it. But on this specific point it was a logical fallacy trading on misuse of terminology that I couldn't resist butting in on.

 

Personally, I thought Savon boxed circles round him. Dychko was competitive but I had Joshua winning. The Cammerelle was close could of gone either way. But obviously Joshua was very lucky there, he definitely lost to Savon and won 2 close fights, home crowd definitely helped him in regards to scoring those fights.

But we all know amateur boxing is corrupt as **** makes the pro game look squeaky clean lol.

 

His belief is a FACT to him, you idiot.

 

THERE! you just admitted it is a belief. You therefore UNDENIABLY and INCONTESTABLY based your "fact" on a belief. Whose belief it is, is immaterial - it remains belief, as also it remains true that you tried to base fact on it.

thank you for that.

 

Nope, I'd be one of the first to criticise AJ if he deserved it, I have in the past. I have no problem with you or anybody else criticising AJ, not an issue.

What my problem is that you seem to think Wilder is either bigger or on the same level as AJ and that is delusional.

They are not on the same planet in terms of money, draw power, numbers and worldwide interest and talent, unfortunately that is a large part of boxing these days, yet you seem to think AJ should drop a title or/and do everything he can to accommodate and give Wilder mega money and an opportunity.

That's not how it works and you know it, Wilder who I believe has virtually no fan base was offered a career high payday to fight Whyte and still priced himself out.

You wait until Wilder confirms his next opponent and come back and tell me that Wilder is doing all he can to secure big fights, big names and top opponents.

I'm not overly happy with a Pulev fight but if it has to happen then so be it, it's a mandatory, these things have to be done sometimes.

That is no reason to even suggest a "duck", that is completely ridiculous and as far as I'm concerned clueless.

 

The most accurate way to state it is, "wilder has not fought any of the top guys yet" , I don't consider Whyte one of the top guys. Thus I don't consider it a duck. That doesn't mean its not however. I personally think Wilder would beat Whyte but its possible Wilder and his team aren't sure enough to risk it.

If there is one thing that can be said about Wilder and his team its they haven't taken any serious chances/fights since he won his trinket.