Now who wins prime Calzaghe or prime Ward?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rorschach51, Jul 5, 2017.


Who wins?

Poll closed Jul 19, 2017.
  1. Prime Calzaghe

    114 vote(s)
    59.7%
  2. Prime Ward

    65 vote(s)
    34.0%
  3. Draw

    7 vote(s)
    3.7%
  4. Just wish Ward would go away

    5 vote(s)
    2.6%
  1. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    As I said it's self explanatory.

    He won the super 6, if he planned on moving up he should of then and beaten Dawson at 175 instead of fighting a drained Dawson.

    When he eventually moved up he brought up Smith (not even top 5 at 168 in Britain) and Brand who was viciously KO'd off Gvozdyk in sparring.

    He never went to 175 to chase initial glory if he did he wouldn't of fought these type of opposition...he went there because he couldn't make weight and had to move up.

    Self explanatory.
     
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  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Dawson was happy to move down. Ward crushed him. Its you who has the issue here. Dawson didnt.
    YOU FAIL.





    he moved up at age 32, not "eventually" at all, but in his prime. AGAIN YOU FAIL.


    he didnt bring Smith to LHW it was catchweight. AGAIN YOU FAIL.

    it was a non title staybusy fight, so why should it be against someone world/elite class. It carried no weight except as testing himself at a heavier weight. AGAIN, YOU FAIL.

    Ward tested himself at LHW first. AGAIN YOU FAIL.

    You claim he has spent 2 years at LHW. But hes only fought their since March 2016. AGAIN YOU FAIL WITH YOUR LIES.


    he went to beat a prime elite. Hes done it TWICE, not once. AGAIN YOU FAIL.
     
  3. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Now just explain one thing - WHy you want to fail so bad?
     
  4. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Ward fought Smith at 172 which is at light heavyweight in 2015.

    There is no division called "the catchweight " division, Ward dragged Smith up to the light heavyweight division end of.

    I know Dawson was willing to go to 168, but making him come down took the shine off Ward's victory.

    As for JC superstars victory over Hopkins, Hopkins was a top 5 P4P fighter at the time.

    Again start talking boxing, I'm not going down the sad pathetic troll road that YOU are... 172 isn't light heavyweight. .....embarrassing.
     
  5. Odins beard

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    30,754 boxing "related" posts on a boxing forum and only 566 got any note of appreciation....thats true failure son....true failure indeed.
     
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  6. HerolGee

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    Noone has claimed there is a catchweight division. YOU FAIL AGAIN.

    What is claimed is that they fought at a specified Catchweight, without that boundaries of the LHW division. This is exemplified in Paul Smith losing part of his purse for not coming in at the specified weight. This was NOT a LHW contest, since he wouldnt have been classed as overweight in a LHW contest.
    YOU FAIL AGAIN!

    so you admit that Ward didnt force him to go to 168, contradciting your earlier statement that Ward forced Dawson to drop to 168. YOU FAIL AGAIN!!!


    Hopkins was world class, noone is saying he wasnt. Although at the time it looked like he was just turning the corner and right to be taken, everyone would expect that in a 40something man after all, JOe calzaghe cant be faulted for expecting that and getting it wrong. YOU FAIL AGAIN.


    NOW, please explain why you want to FAIL 10 times in a row.
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    so you are not going to explain WHY you want to fail so bad? Good choice. But sadly... YOU FAIL AGAIN...by not explaining why you fail this time. kinda unique.
     
  8. Odins beard

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    What weight division is 172 lbs?
     
  9. Odins beard

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    What weight division is 172 lbs?
     
  10. HerolGee

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    Every weight division is a range.

    172 is not a weight range, its a single weight.

    In this instance its a chosen catchweight, eliminating any other possible weight.

    YOU FAIL AGAIN!!!!
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    you are panicking. since you are asking the same question twice.

    you fail again. calm down.
     
  12. Odins beard

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    Last chance to stop embarrassing yourself, Infact I'll put it in the 3rd world level of English that you have.

    Right if a fighter is fighting at 172 lbs what weight category is he competing in?

    Last chance or troll elsewhere, Infact the mods could do with getting rid of you.
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    why last chance when you just had the answer first time around that you asked?

    oh I get it. YOu are pretending you werent answered ...so that you can end this with "haha you didnt answer me" and then run off for your usual "break" " oh I cant talk to this troll" excuse, until it all washes over three pages later.
     
  14. Odins beard

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    LOL yeah bye.
     
  15. Bogotazo

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    Arguments based on the highly flawed punch stat system aren't to be taken seriously.

    Everything I said remains true. Calzaghe is the more hittable fighter, and Ward has the better skillset and Ring IQ. Saying he has "no chance" can only come from a place of extreme bias.
     
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