Buster Douglas vs Vitali Klitschko.

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Who would take this in the battle of the giants?

  1. Buster Douglas

    8 vote(s)
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  2. Vitali Klitschko

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    70.4%
  1. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think we kind of do. He usually fought in mediocrity because he could not take a lot of pressure. I don't think Mike put the pressure on him or Buster would not have lasted long. That just shows you Mike did not hit Buster clean much at all and Buster had his way with him. I mean Mike hit him that great uppercut and Buster went down. And if I remember correctly he looked at his gloves like with Holyfield and almost decided to stay down, and got up right at the count of 10, or at least 9.. and there was Mike down and reaching for his mouthpiece to keep fighting when he can barely stand. No way would Buster ever do that. There is a reason Mike is the legend and Buster is not. He had a great win. That is what he will be known for. I think we know how good he was. Fast hands and big enough guy with a great jab and questionable chin, who didn't have the best heart.
     
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  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Leave me out of your argument you obsessed little freak.
     
  3. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Buster not only got up just fine , but he came out in the 9th and gave Tyson a bettering as well.

    Tyson fumbled around with his mouthpiece because he wanted to be counted out of the fight. There's a big difference in who had more heart that night.

    You want to talk about quitting , none of them were a quitter like Vitali was. Tapping out on his stool against a pudding puff 200 pounder who took the fight on a weeks notice.

    Thats real QUITAGE.

    Vitali has s 100% fail rate against guys like Buster Douglas. Thats not opinion , its fact.

    He was only proven against one style and that was small flat footers with zero athletic ability , thats why everybody he fought fit that exact description.

    There's a big gap in skill between these two and anybody who ever trained a day in their life can see it a mile away.

    People's perception of Vitali is based around a terrible version of Lewis making him look far better than he actually was.
    Go watch his other fights and you'll be in for a rude awakening
     
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  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Compare Joshua's fight with Johnson to Vitali's

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    One is a display of precise hitting and near flawless technique , the other performance looks like an abbot & costello sketch.

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    I imagine nobody will want to watch because the footage blows the Vitali myth into smithereens.
     
  5. BCS8

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    Dino:pipi
     
  6. BCS8

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    Ooooh, aaaah, Dino's hoping that nobody watches the footage! :risas3: Now, why would that be? What reason could he have for wanting that? Let's see what an obsessed loser like him could be thinking.

    1) "Oh I haven't watched the footage, so let's hope that everybody believes an obsessed loser and PROVEN LIAR and BET WELCHER like me."
    2) "Ooh, er, AJ beating Vitali's leftovers 6 years later isn't that impressive"
    3) Both 1 and 2 ^

    In case the links get broken and people can't see how much KJ had slid, here's something from Boxrec:

    "Five-and-a-half years ago Kevin Johnson went 12 rounds with Vitali Klitschko and appeared one of the tougher, more durable members of a moribund heavyweight division. But that was back when his legs could still move, his punches popped out a little more freely, and his ambition was hovering somewhere above zero. [...]
    Then again, Johnson appeared a shadow of his former self and no amount of pre-fight bluster and bravado could gloss over the fact there were clear reasons why he’d lost his last three fights on the spin, albeit over the distance, and of late hasn’t been winning rounds, let alone fights."

    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1965503

    Alas, Dino must be hopping mad that I'm raining on his Klitschko monomania hate-parade and that I'm exposing him for the ZERO that he is :crybaby2::crybaby2::crybaby2::crybaby2::crybaby2::crybaby2:

    That for Dino's "analysis" > :wanker
     
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  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Didn't read.. Lemmie guess - Dino this Dino that. Go and put me on ignore because you need seriously help.
    Calling me name because you can't refute my points ins't an argument for Vitali.
     
  8. dinovelvet

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    Johnson is Johnson. He wasn't good when he fought Vitali and he wasn't good when he fought Joshua.

    The difference in how Vitali performed against him and how a novice Joshua with only 15 fights performed against him .The compassion in quality night and day.
    One guy looked elite , the other guy looked boderline club level.

    Johnson just took top 5 ranked Pulev the distance coming out of retirement so no excuses will apply.

    Vitlali looked garbage against a bum . He landed an embarrassing 200 punches out of 1000 against a guy standing right in front of him.
    Joshua hit Johnson with near every punch he threw and its why he was pretty much gone within the opening round.
    Footage doesn't lie. Vitali can't deal with angles.
     
  9. Thread Stealer

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    It was one of the worst "efforts" I've ever seen by a guy defending the heavyweight title.

    I remember when people kept comparing Hasim Rahman to Buster Douglas after he lost the rematch to Lennox Lewis. I thought that was unfair, Rahman showed up in good shape and tried, he was just beaten by a better fighter and hit with an absolute bomb of a right hand. Douglas showed up with 15 extra pounds of flab, took a right hand, and laid down. Even Mills Lane said "I don't know if Buster could have gotten up, but he definitely didn't try"
     
  10. Mendoza

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    There is a difference in retiring with a career threatening injury and just calling it a day. Tyson actually quit with no injures.

    I find it hilarious that Vitali has a 100% fail rate in your opinion. Later in his career with a similar injury and past his prime he defeated Dereck Chisora.

    Douglas remains a good fighter who for one night was special. But if you watch Tyson, he almost became undone in the fight before this with Bruno.

    Lastly, might you consider that the reason Lennox Lewis did not look good was that he was facing Vitali. You'd be best served if you were honest as Lewis never fought anyone as good as Vitali, and please spare us the past his best Holyfield, and Tyson he faced.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    I almost forgot how one sided and factually inaccurate you are.

    The Johnson Vitali fought ( when he was 48 years old ) was ranked in the top 10 by Ring Magazine, and undefeated!

    Vitali won all 12 rounds vs. a play it safe defensive type of fighter. If Vitali was a bit younger, he likely stops him.

    The Johnson that Joshua defeated was a loser of five of his last six fights!

    Can you understand the difference, Dino?
     
  12. dinovelvet

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    What are you talking about? I never said he had a 100% quitage rate. I said his fail rate against guys with a similar size and stature to Lewis 100% , which it was.

    Yes, Buster's ceiling went a LOT higher that Vitali's and thats why i pick him on his best night against Vitali on his best night.
    I don't pick losers and on Vitali's best night he lost.

    It is what it is. I liked Vitali , he was a great B level boxer who would always beat the Chisoras , Peters , Dillian Whytes , Charles Martin , Joe Parker type guys.
    He'd put a beating on the Douglas that fought Saverese but not the Tokyo version because that Douglas was superior than any Vitali ive ever seen.

    No , Lewis was over weight , under prepared and took the fight on short notice and it showed.

    He looked a mess - his timing wasn't there and that was down to the fact he had been preparing to fight somebody else. He never looked as slow , sluggish and sloppy like that in his prime.
    I envision 40+ Holmes and Foreman doing way better against that Lewis than Vitali did.

    Vitali loseing to Lewis is like Marciano losing to Louis , Tyson losing to Holmes , Ali losing to Liston etc etc.
    That just doesn't happen to great fighters. Vitali took the ATG and he failed.
    You can't sugar coat these facts.
     
  13. dinovelvet

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    No , you don't get it . Its not about Johnson , its about how much superior AJ looked against him and how bad Vitali looked against him.

    AJ bombs any Kingpin clean out , Vitali didn't come close to stopping him because he couldn't. He couldn't even drop him ffs , yet a few fights later Chisora floored him flat on his back.
     
  14. BCS8

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    ^ Dino's standby for when he got bent over like a pimply faced pizza boy bringing ODLH his 4 Seasons with extra anchovies. Execpt for he comes out of the hotel room in stockings and with the anchovies up his rear porch.

    You don't have to guess. You could read it, and see how you just notched up your 653454th loss.

    *squeaky voice* Oh, please don't hit me anymore, you big bully! :crybaby2::crybaby2::crybaby2:

    Except, I just did refute your extremely blunt points.
     
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  15. UnleashtheFURY

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    LMAO this idiot has shame in spewing this kind of biased drivel day in and day out.....
     
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