Experienced boxers Help please

In the absence of evidence to the contrary, you should assume that any experienced trainer who makes a living teaching boys and men how to fight knows what he's talking about (especially with respect to the basic stuff that you need to get down at this point in your training). On the other hand, unfortunately, in the absence of other evidence, you should assume that the folks posting here do not have much experience at all. Two of the most active posters in this thread looked downright noobish in their most recent heavybag footage (from this spring in one case and 2016 in the other). Asking guys like them to assess a guy who's run his own boxing gym for decades will lead to no good. In my humble opinion, you should give Gilbert's gym a chance. Good luck and please let us know how it goes!

 

I don't brag. I'm simply defending myself from accusations by a 40 year old creep who constantly, and I mean constantly harasses me and insults me with cheap shots.
I'm not even a good boxer, I'm still very much new.
All I've said is that I have really good power, which I just do. Whether I say I do or not, I do.
Get in front of a long Title bag that I was using, and maybe see for yourself how hard it is to hit it like that.
If you're right, you should be able to embarrass me instantly, by posting footage of yourself hitting it better.
But you won't, because you're an absolute *****. And you are a weak, ugly *****.

 

Kevin, let's see you land a simple 1-2-3 on a long Title Bag:

Can you hit it close to as hard as this?
https://streamable.com/msbri

That's a brand new bag too.
I've been complimented on my power by many talented fighters in the gym.
Apparently you know better than all of them. So let's see the man behind the critique.

 

That isn't necessarily the case. I've been to a gym in Washington DC where people call it 'The Real Boxing experience' - Yea.. the real boxing experience for people that don't really want to get punched hard. So no.. all trainers are not that good, to some it is just a business and you are the meat market.

 

Are you talking about a boxercise class? You seem to be addressing a different question--whether all gyms that have boxing related classes are worthwhile. I would assume that boxing gyms/classes are mostly a waste of time if you're not getting enough quality one on one attention and technical instruction from a knowledgeable trainer gradually preparing you for sparring, according to your abilities and interests. Otherwise you might as well just bang away on a heavybag in your garage or do YouTube-based drills with friends.

 

No, I'm talking about a trainer selling the fantasy of being a fighter to people when if they tried those things against a professional or a seasoned amateur, they would get murdered. I was on a school trip and I sought out local gyms since I had a good chunk of the day to myself. I found that gym and went(Instead of insulting the gym, I'm respectfully not linking it.) You know instinctively that when you walk into a gym and you look at the other fighters, if your not scared to fight any of them, your in the wrong gym. It was a big open area like a warehouse with a ring, bag setup, very minimal just concrete and no AC in the summer.

And basically the trainer went like this.. "Ok.. I don't care what you learned, you gonna do everything my way. "
So I did.. and his way was shitty and slow. Last day comes and I tell him I'm leaving the state so he says "When you get back to your coach, forget everything you learned here. " Which I replied, "I already planned on it. " And that was that.

So I'm talking from personal experience of my own that we already know boxercise classes are bull****. But then you have boxing gyms where people really don't want to fight or get hit anymore. They say they do but when they start getting socked in the mouth or their bell rung, they quit. So instead of making it tough, they need to keep the business going by making it easy. I've encountered this issue myself of finding the proper balance of being too nice or too rough on training people. Nowadays, I'm leaning a few pegs towards rough cause nice doesn't get it done in the end.

 

Can't figure out the smartphone?
You just lay it against the wall and tap record...

 

Again, come to the gym and ask them for yourself. You keep talking about my power, but what would a 40 year old guy who has never sparred in his life know?

You must know better than world class trainers, amatuer champions, Olympic fighters, and professional contenders...

The ugly, skinny, weak, creepy 40 year old with zero experience must know better than all of those folks. Hmm

When my trainer, who trained one of the top HWs of the 90s tells me I hit like an "effing mule," he must be wrong. But Kevin, a loser who is so confident about his skills he is too scared to record himself and post footage, must know better than those people. Sure.

It's sad watching a grown man trying to hard to establish some kind of name for himself in a boxing forum, when he hasn't even sparred, ever. You're desperate for attention and meaning. And I assume since you're 40, you realize you can't earn those things the honest way. So rather you will try to bring every single person on this forum down to your level. You are toxic garbage.

Perhaps this is the destructive pattern of behavior that lead to you to have such an obscure life, where you argue with people half your age about activities they participate in, and you never have or will.

Your age, combined with your behavior, tells me that we may be the stress relievers for a toxic idiot with psychological issues.

 

I guess we'll have to take your word on what those "world class trainers, amatuer champions, Olympic fighters, and professional contenders..." say about your prodigious power. Do they agree with your claim that you're one of the two hardest punchers in the entire gym?

https://streamable.com/v8j4b

I'm done talking about your bagwork. It only came up originally because you kept referencing your time "training with a world-class trainer" to justify some of your strange posts regarding punching technique. Then lo and behold, your bagwork footage showed very crude technique and you eventually admitted that you get very little one-on-one attention from the world-class trainer.

And what kind of serious sparring have you done? As I mentioned before, by the looks of your footage, I'd be shocked that the trainer thought you were ready for full-action sparring sessions.

 

It's not my claim, it's the trainers.
I've never bigged up my power in the gym, only others have.

You keep posting the same clip of me after a 4 hour workout just throwing power shots on a bag.
And you are using it as a means to discredit my posts on punch technique?
Okay, if you are using my footage to assess my posts, naturally you should post footage of yourself, to show that you are credible.

What does it say about you, that despite the fact that you can upload footage with the ease of pressing a button, you never have?

The kind where two people go in the ring and punch each other.

 

To not have beginners punching each other hard before having techinque and defence sounds like a sound idea, but if you mean that this was more of a boxcersise gym then it's not really a boxing gym.

Is there no national/state(?) boxing federation that gyms in America are registrered to? That should in my opinion sort out which gyms to "trust" and not to.

 

Agreed! And with a proper coach you'll now when you're ready.

That list is excactly what i was going for. Any club there I guess should have a good enough coach.

 

Just wondering, why do you repeatedly post videos of you punching the bag? Are we meant to be impressed? Its not difficult to make a bag swing.

Are you now comparing your power to AJ?!

EDIT: this was to Rez who seems to have deleted his post which was directly above this one.

 

What did the rest of us miss?