Louis telling Ali he'd have been a "bum of the month"

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  1. superman1986

    superman1986 Active Member banned Full Member

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    This was recorded in 1966 when Ali was champion. Coincidentally, Tyson would be born that same year, while Ali was born while Louis was the reigning champion.

    On a side note, what if Joe Louis decided to get in shape and make a comeback to challenge Ali for the title????
     
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  2. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Nice snapple fact with Ali being born the same year Louis was champ. Thanks for sharing!

    My grandfather had Joe Louis.
    My father had Muhammad Ali.
    I had Mike Tyson.
     
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    superman1986 Active Member banned Full Member

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    So did my grandfather and Dad and I also had Tyson. My grandfather remembers listening to the Louis/ Conn fight on the radio with his dad when he was a bit. And I remember my dad ordering Lewis/ Tyson on PPV.
     
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  4. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    That's awesome bro. It really hits home. The tradition continues with...Anthony Joshua? I don't have any kids yet so we'll see. Might skip a generation.

    Good Youtube find by the way.
     
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    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Seemed scripted but still really funny
     
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    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They were always trading barbs back during Ali's first reign. Joe would tell the boxing magazines how he would ko Ali. I have the one mag with Ali's retort "Louis ko me? He must be joking" was the title probably around '66 or '67. Joe was also still calling him Clay at the time and that didn't please Ali.
     
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    I had heard that he called him Clay because he had trouble pronouncing the word Muhammad.

    I heard a story from Billy Conn that sometime in the early 60s, when Ali was still a contender, Joe Louis and he were at a restaurant around Louisville. When Ali found out what restaurant they were at, he got into his car and made a bee line to the restaurant just to tell Joe Louis that he was lucky he wasn't fighting today or he'd have whooped Louis.

    And Joe Louis told Ali "Young man, if you ever dreamed about beating me you better wake up and apologize"
     
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  8. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And your son will have Deontay Wilder?
     
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    Wilder just might turn out to be the GOAT!

    You know, Wilder seems to have a more Lewis like style while AJ seems to have a more Bruno like style. Although Wilder isn't better than Lewis. But AJ is faster and more fluid than Bruno.
     
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  10. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder is a one punch wonder. Big right hand and nothing else. History tells us that one hit wonders generally do not do well long term vs top opposition. More talented fighters will be able to nullify the one punch they need to worry about.
     
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    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Perry, your post about Wilder is not quite true. Wilder has a good long jab when he decides to use it and there's always the trademark windmill to fall back on.

    Besides when you are talking about American heavies (Louis, Ali Tyson) inspiring each generation like in the posts above, Wilder is clearly the best American heavyweight for this generation. What other American heavie around do you see that will do better than he will?
     
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    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My post is very true.

    His clear weapon is his right hand which he lands with power. Every fighter has the basic punches they will throw the question is effectiveness and which is the dominant blow. In terms of Wilder EVERYTHING he does is in an effort to land his right hand. Again against top opposition major flaws are generally capitalized upon. A top boxer would train to nullify that right and bring their own right over a jab that is dropped every time he throws it. Wilder has not been tested nor is he yet hwt champion. The true test of a fighter is not who he steamrolls but his character during very tough bouts against top opposition. Does he have a poor chin? Can he take a prolonged body attack? Does he have the fortitude to come back to win when hurt and losing? All questions yet to be answered before the word "best" can ever be used to describe him.
     
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    Ali represented the younger, more radical generation of black people while Joe Louis represented the older, church going, middle class black people idealogically.
     
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  15. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yet a few years later in the lead up to Ali-Frazier I, Ali called Frazier an Uncle Tom and gave the view that anybody that supported Frazier supported the whites and that he (Ali) was the representative of the black people especially those living in abject poverty even though the reality was that Frazier was the one that was born in the poor south that knew real poverty and had to work in the fields as a youngster before leaving with his young family to seek work. Ali was the one that was in contrast, born and raised into a fairly comfortable church going black family.

    Kind of ironic really but then Ali was always a complex man of many contradictions.