Things a Casual would say...

Going by the PPV sales, i doubt any casual saw that fight.

 

- All Mayweather does is run and duck the best fighters
- Muhamhed Ali was the greatest
- When is Joshua fighting again?
= He(insert any modern top Heavyweght) wouldn't last a round with Mike Tyson

 

I wish i was kidding but i was debating May-Mac with somebody i work with the other day and he said to me " well yeah but the ufc guys are always taking punches in practice, that's all they do! Boxers aren't like that!"

......i **** you not

 

Generally your prime is when you are under 30. Or little over. Hopkins prime was late. But Hopkins started when he was almost 20. So..but of course there are exceptions.

Guerrero prime was at LW. Hatton prime was JWW. Was not the same at WW anymore. Maidana was in his prime. But Maidana is not the best. And it's no coincidence that Floyd struggled with Maidana. Showing that Floyd is not that great WW. Maidana was actually the only true WW In his prime who he faced. And Maidana is not the best.

of course Flloyd prime was years ago too. But it's complete smoke and mirrors that Floyd is P4P 1. Hell not even at WW.

Canelo was so young. First time also dealing with that kind of pressure. And it affects the fights. Also it was at 152pounds. Those 2pounds make a difference when you are starving to death.but of course we can't say 100%
Was Canelo on prime and on his best or not. But it's hell a lot easier to assume he was not.

everybody fight out of prime opponents. However,rarely we see ATG's who had managed to do so,their whole careers.


Floyd has incredible resume and names. Lots of money and CASUAL boxing fans think he is TBE.

But you are hardcore know it all. So maybe i'm totally wrong.



Only reason Floyd went up was $$$$. Floyd could probably dominate LW and JWW on his later days. But not WW without carefully selecting and timing his opponents. Floyd is master in and out of the ring.

 

The Mike Tyson one gets flung at me at work a lot. Had a guy say the other week that 'no one really boxed in that division apart from Ali and Tyson'

 

Wladdie who gets serially dfestoryed by journeymen, is ATGreatest.

 

Oh sorry meant second part of his career. First part is really good. When Floyd was in his prime. As generally you are in prime when you are young.

I say Floyd from first Canelo fight could win this current Canelo. But no way current Floyd wins. Or it depends how slow tempo Floyd can force.

Floyd only won the second Maidana fight. First one you could argue. Floyd won by the Vegas Floyd rules. If Maidana would have been the A side it would have been clear win for Maidana.but sadly this is again what if's.

and some poster here break it down perfectly about Hatton. Hatton was spent on Collazo fight,right before Floyd. And Hatton was too small to have success at WW with that style. Remember Hatton went life and death with Collazo right before.prime Hatton?was Collazo really that great?

it just too suspicious with Floyd everytime. That's the reason everybody keeps repeating these same sentences year after year.
Strange that boxing hardcore fan don't see trough this. Even casual Floyd fan sees trough this. I rate Floyd extremely high. But blinding yourself from the truth is also stupid.


yes. Floyd beat prime Corrales and Castillo. That's pretty much it. But also Floyd was forced to do this. His ***** body break down. Become old. So he had to manipulate the rules and fought majority of the time against other old bitches or average fighters.or drag other small bitches to WW.

sad that the Canelo fight had to be CW and in my opinion too early. For me it's one of the best wins for Floyd. But there is cloud's above it sadly.

but i'll give you that. The only time almost he stepped up in 2part of his career. Maidana too as i mentioned. But Maidana is not the best(and have hardtime declaring Floyd as a winner in 1st fight) so it showed little bit for me. That maybe Floyd is not the best WW. I mean Maidana was real WW. And you could argue Floyd Lost.

 

Muhammad Ali was the greatest.

The #1 of all time? maybe not...but the greatest yes.

 

Floyd is tbe

 

"McGregor's left hand is p4p the hardest hitting in combat sports."

No. If in any doubt please read the sentence before this again for further explanation.