David Allen: Only an idiot would fight Ortiz if he don't need too (sic)

If you like Parker then just stfu lmao. **** are we talking for lmao.

 

lol I thought the same,how does one turn down Whyte and big money in favour of a bigger more skilled guy who brings no money only the chance of losing,crazy how Ego fallen for it which is what Wilder wants but from what I've read everyone on to his MO by now.

 

What explanation does he provide for refusing the Josh fight?

 

Ok then Wilder fan boys let's just see if Wilder fights Ortiz,heck let's even give him a pass re Stiverne cause Wilder says he don't want that again but if he has to fight Stiverne so be it and then Wilder v Ortiz next right?
Just one question how is it that Wilder saying Ortiz and him is almost done and yet Ortiz and his team haven't spoken to Wilder or heard anything about it,love to know the answer to this but I'm not sure even the staunchest Wilder fan can answer this?

 

If you mean the part i referred to his Golden Ticket to a Joshua fight and making 4 mil in the process i was referring to Hearn offering him 4 mil to fight Dillian Whyte.
It builds interest for the AJ fight especially if he dispatches Whyte and looks more impressive than AJ doing it. But he turned it down, read conflicting reports, some suggesting he demanded 7 mil and pricing himself out, and saying something about he doesnt have to negotiatie with Hearn, another saying he shouldnt be fed Joshuas victims etc etc. Basically he ducked Whyte imo and in doing so has ruined his chances of fighting Joshua anytime soon.

 

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Allen has more balls than Wilder...

 

You don't even have the facts to the question that you're asking. Lmao.

 

Joshua is NOT the hvw champion of the world. I repeat, Joshua is NOT the hvw champion of the world! What part don't you get about that? And **** Whytes bum ass. Wilder doesn't have to deal with Hearn until they talk about a unification fight.

 

Yes we know you see all belt holders as just titlist's or trinket holders, i cant actually see anything in that part you quoted of mine where i claim Joshua is the world champ but anyway...

The point im making is Wilder bangs on about wanting the Joshua fight etc, Hearn offered him the quickest and most lucrative way to it and he turned it down and is doing nothing to build his profile on his end. Calling out Ortiz when you know you have a mando doesnt count as building your profile, so he is literally doing nothing to build his profile. Hearn knows this has potential if Wilder builds his profile, but Wilders ego seems to be getting in the way. He seems to feel entitled to Joshua straight away having done nothing to earn it and bringing nothing in terms of money to the table himself.
Wilder will want a good chunk of the money from this fight, and if he builds his profile and works to get the money then he deserves to. But at the moment he makes 900k based on his last fight whereas AJ pocket 15 mil or something. If Wilder wants that huge money fight he needs to bring money himself to the table, which at the moment he does not. Fighting Stiverne and calling out other fighters when he/they are tied up doesnt enhance his profile it makes him look like an idiot. Shouting bomb squad and shadow boxing on instagram, getting caught with weed in his car and calling out Ortiz when he knows he is going to be fighting Stiverne is not i repeat not enhancing your profile. Hearn should tell him to stick it and offer him what he got in his last fight to fight AJ, give him 900k, let AJ have the rest since he is the one generating the cash and working to do so.

 

Where was all this talk when Floyd said that Cotto had no fanbase? You didn't say that Cotto had to build his fanbase lmao.

 

Im talking about this situation.
If you look at the money Wilder brings to the table compared to Joshua, theres no comparison. If Wilder wants a decent chunk of the revenue from this fight he should build his profile so he can rightfully argue he is entitled to big bucks. So far his paydays would suggest he isnt capable of generating much money.

 

I don't care who gets more. They are both titlists. Wilder doesn't have to build his profile. It's already there. He wants a unification. He doesn't have to go the Hearn blueprint. Fighters today don't always fight guys with a fanbase. From flyweight to heavyweight not every fighter has a Canelo or Floyd fanbase. That's all silly talk. You don't approve of Wilders fights and I don't approve of Joshua's either or his short term future fights. We want a hvw champion. I'm tires of seeing these mismatches.

 

His profile only exists in Alabama. Outside of that area, the casuals vaguely recognise who he is. Only among the hardcore boxing fans is he considered an established name.

 

Look we could go round in circles for days on this.
If Wilder had a decent profile people in his own town would pay to watch him fight, fact is they dont, he cant sell it out, for whatever reason. Its not me dissing Wilder or slagging him off, its just a fact, he doesnt have a big enough profile for a massive fight. The only thing he has is a belt. Joshua has all the rest.

Now for me and you and the rest of the fans, we dont care who gets more, we want the fight made. We just have differing opinions on how the fight gets made. Unfortunately Wilder doesnt have a big enough profile, same with Parker, which is why Parker is working on enhancing his profile to get the unification. It makes no odds to us whether Wilder makes 10 mil against Joshua or 5 mil, he isnt giving me and you any of the money so why do we care? We dont. Wilder will care though, and at the moment its likely he will demand a decent chunk to fight AJ, a chunk which to be honest will be worth way more than what he is going to generate due to his lack of credability/recognition/popularity/previous purses/previous opponents/other reasons. In doing so he will be getting ideas above his stable. This has the fight to be a ridiculously huge fight and we all wanna see it, but for a promoter its an opportunity to make it the biggest fight of the year when it happens. Doing it and not maximising its full potential is not their job, Hearns a clever man, he makes huge events and he knows this could be another one.

Yes, me and yuou simply dont care, it doesnt effect our lives if Joshua and Wilder make an extra 4-5 mil each if it happens in a year iof Deontay raises his profile or if they get it on as soon as AJ is done with Pulev, its the fight we want, we dont care about the money. But the fighters and promoters do, and for Wilder to get a huge payday he will need to bring a decent enough pile of money to the table.