Earnie Shavers vs Evander Holyfield

Holyfield didn't have to 'survived'. You make it sound like Holyfield was in danger or in serious trouble in that fight but there was never any stage in that fight that Holyfield looked seriously hurt let alone had to 'survive'.

 

Good for him. Classy man.

Ali took a beating that night however, whether or not you think he deserved the win.

 

No one thought Shavers deserved the win except you. Even Shavers feels he did not deserve the win.

 

Ali-Shavers was very close. A struggle, a battle that every writer/journalist deemed as life or death. Sports Illustrated's tagline for the front cover - "Ali's Desperate Hour".

Taken from Boxrec...

• NBC arranged to flash the official scoring on the screen after every round. Such an obvious edge was not lost on Angelo Dundee, Ali's trainer, who posted Baltimore matchmaker Eddie Hrica in the champion's dressing quarters to watch the TV set there and relay the numbers after each round. And so, after 12 rounds, Dundee knew the only way Shavers could beat his man was by a knockout.

 

Cool. I'll live with that.

Getting back to the thread topic, since Shavers couldn't drop a decrepit Ali through fifteen rounds of non-stop pummelling I guess you agree it's next to impossible for him to do so against a much fresher more dangerous Holyfield. Which leaves him nothing to fall back on. So it is, in fact, as close to "a sure thing" that Holyfield wins as you can get at this level.

 

There was no non stop pummeling during Ali Shavers. Learn the sport.

Shavers has a punchers chance vs most anyone. Both men at their best Holy is the favorite. Holy was koed by the likes of Bowe and Toney (albeit not prime) so being koed by Shavers would not be the greatest surprise. My pick would be Holy by stoppage in 10 rounds.

 

Please name all the writers who had Shavers winning the bout please. With such a life and death battle certainly 40-50% of those watching the fight would have scored the bout for Shavers. AP and API as well as the three judges had the bout for Ali 9-6/10-5. I know of only a couple who scored the bout for Shavers and they were profound Ali haters. However even Dick Young, a strong Ali basher, wrote Shavers did not do enough to win.

If you don't believe them Shavers HIMSELF stated that he did not do enough to win. That's the man himself.

All the young posters have no clue. Great example how a fight results can be so easily distorted through eyes 40 years later.

 

He clearly doesn't else he would have stopped Ali with one of those dozen or so clean right hands he landed to his grill. I'm not even going to debate he did this; it's on video for anyone to see.

"Holyfield was KOed by the likes of Bowe," has to be the finniest shiet I've heard from you yet. Bowe was a top flight heavyweight and ten times the fighter Shavers ever was, and he had to absorb a beating for eight rounds to finally put down a sick Holyfield for good. Point me a fight where Shavers rallied back from a knockdown to stop a guy of comparable standing and your post might start to make some goddamn sense.

 

Hey, here's a really simple instruction that everyone picked up when yee old world wide webs began using forums for users to express themselves...HIT THE REPLY BUTTON WHEN RESPONDING TO ANYONE'S POST.

Learn it. Live it. Shove it.

 

And who said young posters have no clue?

 

Evander would jump on Earnie and after having innitial success, would get coldcocked by Earnie's right, midway through the first.

 

That's about the least likely scenario I can see unfolding.

 

lol