Rocky Marciano vs Ted Lowry and Roland LaStarza

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  1. BlackPanther(Comics)

    BlackPanther(Comics) Member banned Full Member

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    I know Rocky Marciano fans aren't bright and anybody with a brain knows what type of people are Rocky Marciano fans and why they like him.

    But since I am talking to slow witted Marciano fans let me break it down slowly to you. Marciano was beat by Roland LaStaraza a natural 180 pound fighter and got a gift win.
    [url]http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Rocky_Marciano_vs._Roland_LaStarza_(1st_meeting)[/url]

    Marciano was beat by 177 pound Ted Lowry and was almost knocked out by him.[url]http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:19970[/url] Lowry could of knocked out Marciano when ever he choose too but held back.

    Marciano was knocked down by blown up middleweight Archie Moore with one punch. Even though Moore was past his prime and knocked out various times in his prime by guys in his own size. Including being blown away in 1 round by Leonard Morrow a average fighter. I took Marciano 9 or so odd rounds and numerous knock downs to finish him.

    Ezzard Charles was on a downward slide in his career. He was 2-2 in his previous 4 bouts before he fought Marciano and something like 10-14 in his bouts after Marciano. Charles was a natural 180 or so odd pound fighter yet he was a go the distance with Marciano in their first fight even though Walcott knocked him out with one punch years before.

    Jersey Joe Walcott was past his physical prime. I believe he was pusing 40. Had been fighting for 20 plus years by the time he fought Marciano. He was knocked out various times and lost to various fighters in his prime. Even poor or average fighters beat him and stopped him. Yet a washed up version was still able to floor Marciano and compleletly outbox him until he was stopped. Which is funny how Marciano fans act like stopping a washed up Walcott proves something when your chin gets worse with age and he was stopped easier in his prime.

    Joe Louis was a 190 to 200 pound guy in his prime. Known for his class chin and his lack of opponents. When your opponents are called the "bum of the month club" and you are fighting guys who were 3-3 in title fights then we have a problem. Louis was knocked out by Max Schemling a 180 to 90 pound fighter in his prime much easier than Marciano did a washed up version of Louis. Various other guys either hurt or knocked a prime verison of Joe down.

    Yet to this very day you Marciano fans who live in your fantasy world still believe he can beat a modern sized heavyweight. He never faced one. Which means he never beat on. But we do know he was almost knocked out by fighters his own size.

    Marciano has to be the most overrated, biggest joke in the history of boxing. But as I said I know what kind of fans he has and why they like him.
     
  2. TBI

    TBI Active Member Full Member

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    Try harder.
     
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    How did you score the two fights?
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    So Tiger ted coulda knocked out rocky any time he wanted.. But just held back!? Well of course he held back.. Fighters do that all the time don't they?!
    Oh look, my opponent s in trouble and on the verge of been stopped.. Ooo wait a min, I best hold back, God forbid I knock the twat out!
     
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  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Same baiting racist comments he started when he was black hercules. A real shame he feels the need to act this way instead of trying to contribute to the forum. I'd like to add I am not nor have I ever been a Rocky fan but this is just ridiculous
     
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  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Marciano haters are the most virulently racist posters that you will encounter on boxing forums.

    Most of them hate Rocky Marciano because he was white, pure and simple.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Would you say the reverse is true? That those that adore him do so because---
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Not to the same extent no.

    Many people adore him for the same reasons that they adore Joe Frazier.

    You don't need a racial motive to love an exciting all action swarmer.
     
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  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Some of that definitely exists.
    Both are equally dumb.

    There are over 4,000 comments on my Marciano video. Over the last year, I've read every single one. So I feel like I have really good grasp of how people think about Marciano.

    I would say 3% are pro-White comments.
    2% Anti-white comments.
    5% saying he is the greatest of all time.
    5% saying he was overrated.
    And the other 85% referring to him as a great legendary fighter.

    I notice younger people seem to care less about race. They just compare all boxers against each other from all time eras based on a Kellerman-esque approach to analyzing.
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm white so I can't be accused of colour prejudice on his behalf though Mendoza tries that one.
    A great fighter ? Yes he was. His fans get a bit," over enthusiastic ,"at times but he did all that was asked of him.
     
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  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You fall more into the category of "Marciano skeptic" than "Marciano hater".

    A "Marciano hater" would be somebody along the lines of Revolver or Black Hercules, who launches repeated attacks upon Marciano.

    With people like that, I think we should tell the truth and shame the devil.
     
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Louis wasn`t in his prime when he was beat by Max, he was still far more green than when he blasted Max in a rematch in 1st round, in the first fight Louis was too open to the right hand so he practiced fixing this and his defense became brilliant. Archie Moore had and has more KO`S than any fighter in history and is considered one of the greatest light heavies of all time, so don`t tell me fighters like Moorer and Spinks who also moved up couldn`t be knocked out by Archie, he punched a lot harder than blown up middles, I don`t even think punchers at middle would have been strong enough to fight Archie at light heavy.
     
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  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    While I agree Marciano was white and simple, I don't know if he was "pure".
     
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  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Behave yourself!
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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