People who think Ali would be able to compete with the tall-superheavyweights

Theatricality and deception are powerful agents to the uninitiated and you are uninitiated. i.e ydksab which is why you can't think for yourself.
The creator of that HW Rag is an unemployed Auzzie bogan who is the laughing stock of every knowledgeable boxing fan. Much like you are around here.

The HW Blog is hate piece of lies and manipulated stats. Its evident you never watched any fights otherwise you would not be so brainwashed by its bullchit.
@GALVATRON is another clown who was taken in by what he read on there and one piece of false info he's parroted was Ali going life and death with Karl Mildenburger as well as being dropped by a body shot.
It turned out that the round he claimed Ali was downed by a body shot was a 10-8 round to Ali.
This can all be verified and its the reason he is now terrified to engage with me.

How can he be an excellent predator if his style of fighting his using his size to box from range? A predator is Mike Tyson , Joe Frazier , a predator is a pressure fighter. Vitali was not a pressure fighter.
Right out the gate and you're already wrong.
So basically what you are saying is what didn't work for Vitali would not work for Ali , because there is no difference whatsoever between Vitali and Ali?

Vitlali got his face punched off against Lewis because his footwork and upperbody defence is not in the same stratosphere as Ali's.
His legs are stiff and clunky and his head movement is non existent. That bloated , old and slow Lewis wouldn't have landed a glove on Ali.
Vitali won fights because he fought absolute bums with zero athletic ability who walked forward in straight lines.
It had nothing to do with his lean back style because his two best wins - Arroela and Peter were also beaten by smaller men - Adamek and Chambers.

Vialti's total punch output on Kevin Johnson was a laughable 200/1000 . If he could barely touch Kingpin , how his he going to touch Ali?
Ali fought guys who could move. Mildenburger moved around the ring more in round round than Peters did in a whole fight.
Wlad struggled and lost to every mover he ever faced.
More on him in a minute.

 

Size beat skills eh?

So Wilder beats Tyson , Louis , Frazier ? Valeuv beats Holyfield , Chagaev and Haye? Vitali beat Byrd?

Ali's best wins are :
Liston - bigger than Ali
Foreman- bigger than Ali
Frazier - 10 lb difference
Norton - same size
Cleveland Williams - same size
Terrell - same size
Buster Mathis - bigger than Ali
Bugner - bigger than Ali
Chuvalo - heavier than Ali

Wlads best wins :

Byrd I - half Wlads size
Byrd II - half Wlads size and shot to bits
Haye - half Wlads size
Povetkin - Wlad illegally used his size advantage to break his back
Chagaev- smaller than Wlad
Pulev - same size

Brewster and Sanders were smaller than Wlad and they knocked him out.

 

No one mentioned in this thread could compete with prime Ali, guaranteed. The difference in class is incredible. They'd be hitting air all night while Muhammad tee'd off.

 

Hasn't anybody dropped AJ's name yet?

If that doesn't suit you then how about Hank Koopa, depositing your un-hittable man onto the deck surely counts as competing?

It could be the case that pre-exile Ali truly was a lightning strike of unique ability, forever to remain unrivalled, invincible.

Or

It could also be the case that Ali does get overrated. Great and probably the greatest based on his accomplishments, but the last 50 years happened (sports science, nutrition, PEDs, blablabla) and we have seen skilled heavyweights who are also fukcing massive.

I understand the argument that pre-exile Ali tires out the SHW (say W. Klitschko) then he falls over but I personally don't see it, sure it could happen but my money would be on Ali getting caught before that happens and if so its a different fight from that moment on, if it doesn't end there and then.

 

My alt thinks Joshua would defeat M. Tyson i do not...so there goes your idiot logic out the window again....better go catch it.

If i did have ALTS on here beleive me you would have sighned off and deleted your account...one of me is enough on here for you and your LACK of knowledge of course you could put me ignore is what your best bet is bc since you like to include me in your little feeble convos....


'Yes, so do Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson and George Foreman. "

And so do i ...but greatest is not the best and it doesnt matter who said what ,they have no authority over me or real life logic do they? My cat could also have an opinion that the sky is blue if it was possible ...would that make his claim false? Get a clue please...lmao

 

Ali was a great fighter but I don't rank him the best heavy. Very near the top though. And he would be very competitive against the superheavies no doubt about it. The man moved like a welterweight at times it seems. Iron chin. Respectable power. Footwork and positioning A+. And since when is 6'3 218 ish small?

 

Another pile of garbage. How about that proof about current HWs having better workrate in 12 rd Championship bouts than past greats did in 15 rounders? I see you conviniently ducked that part like the ****** you are.

And I wasn't talking about James Smith you moron. I realize he's your boyfriend, not your alt. I'm talking about the alt you had when you got your ass banned for excessive idiocy. But please, do bring on your alts. Spanking your sorry ass when you only post under 1 account is way too easy and becoming boring.

I also didn't mean Foreman, Tyson, Holmes also think Ali beats anyone , I said yes(in reply to you asking Ali beats any active HW?), so do Holmes, Tyson and Foreman(as in they also beat any Active HW). Apparently your reading comprehensions is even worse than your boxing knowledge(which is less than very little) and It's even worse than your terrible articulating.

 

Nah you could do your own homework .....

you lack absolute understanding of the sport in general but that was established by me awhile back.

Again it doesnt matter who thinks what they have no authority of me...foreman also not long claimed he would have a good chance to lose to shavers bc he THOUGHT he would get knocked out. i HAD this convo with him and changed his mind so i guess that makes me a boxing god right? lmao

The only thing you continually spank on here is yourself newb.

 

Are you really this ret@rded? I JUST corrected you that I didn't mean that they also think Ali beats anyone, butt that they also beat any Active HW.

Really, you're so dumb that there's no fun in schooling you. "Ali beats any Active HW, so do Foreman, Tyson and Holmes." How can you be possibly be thick enough to misunderstand this not once, but twice?

And I'm still waiting for the proof about your Statement in the previous page. Quit the ducking galvatmoron.

 

What did you correct?lol

Ali beats ANY HW is that of opinion not fact.Which actually could easily be disproved more than proved through actually Ali fights. You would know this if you actually watched them not look at fighters as if they are some worshipped beings...lol

The only thing i understand is how dopey you get more and more you post.

 

You claimed I Said those 3 also agree with me, so I corrected you. But obviously too idiotic to understand that.

Let me try it one last time, maybe your peabrain can comprehend with it with a few more hours of try: Ali would beat any active HW, so would Holmes, Tyson and Foreman. Even ret@rd like you can get it, I promise. And yeah, It is an opinion. That's the only thing you got right like a broken clock.

And keep ducking the question like the ****** you are, suits you perfectly.

 

Well, I'm not into hero worship or anything. I just don't think Ali is overrated at all. When I see people saying that I think of that Roy Jones song, "Y'all musta forgot". The guy was an amazing talent who fought in a very tough era and beat some truly great fighters. I don't think it's ridiculous to say that his skill could overcome the physical disadvantages he would face in the ring with these guys. He would surely have the advantage of his incredible speed and reflexes. We've seen the big guys gas in plenty of fights and they are ponderous in comparison. I would put my money on prime Ali against any of the heavies of today. Just my two cents.

 

You quoted them as if they are the authority....yes you did its in the post isnt it imbecile? lol


I dont care what you think or who ali would defeat they are all empty claims with little to support it. as usual.

so again what did you correct me on? lol

the answer is nothing.keep putting your foot in your mouth on here this is fun,

'Unlike your passive-agressive accusation, I have 0 emotional attachment to any Fighter."

Great quote here too...^^^^^^^to bad its also FALSE.

 

I didn't quote them you ****ing moron. I don't know what think on the matter, and I don't care. I said Ali beats any active HW, so would those 3. As in, Holmes, Tyson and Foreman would also beat any Active HW. How can you possibly be moronic enogh to not get this? Is there any limitations for your ******ation?

 

You referanced them as the authority of Ali being the best...are you drunk now? lol