Abel and team Golovkin whining about charlo #1 spot

GGG will fight Charlo either way if successful vs Canelo and Saunders, should Charlo become a prize fighter or sit and wait till mandatory position is forced. And Canelo and Saunders are not tune ups, they are no Heilands of the world. So be silent because as of now there are no tune up Adamas in line for GGG.

GGG team's logic is simple yet not communicated properly by them: (1) All the belts or (2) prize fights, and they should stress these two objectives more clearly, otherwise dumbasses like Dontae bias nation don't get it. It's not only one objective - all the belts - like they always say. There are two. Otherwise they wouldn't have chased Canelo. People got 'All the belts", but Prize fighting is not communicated by GGG team properly. I'd even say they can't connect with audience when talking about prize fighting.

When fighter 'A side' says potential opponent 'C side' should become a bigger 'B side' name, this is often interpreted as a way to avoid/duck this opponent, and rightfully so. But with GGG it's a different case:
- Before becoming a prizefighter, GGG was that 'C side' and fought anybody available be it Proksa, Macklin, Adama just to build his name and relevance at 160, and often for very little money (Proksa's fight purse covered only the cost of organising the event).
- After becoming a prizefighter, GGG definitely avoided Fletcher, Heiland, tried to avoid Wade (unsuccessfully due to IBF strict rules that got Tyson Fury stripped right away), didn't challenge Tureano Johnson because those are C side fighters. Did he duck them? No. But would GGG fight them if forced? Yes.

So when GGG team says Charlo should establish himself at 160, they want Charlo to become that name that fans get behind and come to and pay for the fight, that it becomes a prize fight. If GGG beats Charlo that fought nobody relevant at 160, then he'd be criticised the same way as against Brook. If Lemieux on his long-win streak KO'd Stivens before his fight with GGG, then GGG-Lemieux would have been bigger than it was. If Charlo beat Lemieux, then GGG-Charlo event will be worth coming to, and I'm saying this as a fan who travelled across the ocean for his fights against Jacobs and Lemieux (didn't come for Wade fight, guess why?).

 

Charlo right now would be his third best victory.

 

That's true.

 

Wish Abel spoke less

 

You right, but people are trying to play past that fact. They are not looking at the skills on display by Charlo that attest to the fact that he is ready.

 

Charlo did exactly what I wish more fighters did. From what I've seen of him I like Charlo quite a bit. However you can understand the frustration Golovkins camp may be having. Golovkin just fought Jacobs, is preparing for Canelo, has BJS in his thoughts and now is having Charlo shoved at him. Golovkin was entertaining retirement after the Canelo fight. For a fighter who is mentally, and possibly physically at the end of his career, fighting 4 bouts in a row at this level of competition can be very draining. GGG is probably in camp preparing for a career defining fight with more intensity than he's ever had before. He's stepping up the game from his last camp where he did the exact same thing. Despite this camp not being complete and having yet to get paid for it, he's got two more fights in his head right now where he'll have to go through the same grueling camp, against opponents who who could cause more damage and frustration than he's ever faced.

Retirement could be coming soon for Golovkin.

 

The WBC sure loves to shove fighters at their champions while they are focusing on their opponents. I can understand Abel and Triple G"s frustration at having a mandatory shoved down their throat out of nowhere while they are trying to focus on the biggest fight of their lives. Must have been the same sort of frustartion Canelo must have felt having the WBC try to shove Golovkin down his throat when he was trying to focus on fighting Cotto and Khan.

 

Failed attempt to spin it. Completely different situation compared to Charlo.
7 June 2014 - Cotto beats Martinez to win WBC belt (Martinez avoids GGG easily because GGG doesn't have any leverage)
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18 Oct 2014 - GGG beats Rubio to earn interim which made him mandatory challenger (the saga begins)
21 Feb 2015 - GGG beats Murray (Cotto avoids GGG)
16 May 2015 - GGG beats Monroe (Cotto avoids GGG)
6 Jun 2015 - Cotto beats Geale (Cotto avoids GGG)
17 Oct 2015 - GGG beats Lemieux (Cotto avoids GGG)
21 Nov 2015 - Canelo beats Cotto (Cotto is stripped as he didn't pay sanctioning fees). [1 year of BS from Cotto]
23 Apr 2016 - GGG beats Wade (Canelo maintains he's not a MW)
7 May 2016 - Canelo beats Amir Khan at MW (Canelo avoids GGG)
18 May 2016 - Canelo vacates WBC belt, GGG get promoted to full titleholder. [6 months of BS from Canelo]
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10 Sep 2016 - GGG beats Brook
18 Mar 2017 - GGG beats Jacobs
16 Sep 2017 - The saga will have its end or continuation.

 

I agree with nothing you just said. Charlo is a good opponent for GGG. It doesn't even need explaining.

 

Great post. Prior to that he was dealing with the same **** from Quillin and Sturm. But. There are guys on here who will slate him as a bum crusher and ducker when they're rocking Wilder avatars and will defend him/the likes of Stevenson to the death. Unreal. Who know's how Golovkins career would have gone down had he unified and cleared the division out 2-3 years ago? Very well could have moved up to SMW when he was still at his absolute peak.

 

With regards to Charlo, I'm happy with that fight assuming he beats Canelo. Well, I'd prefer the Saunders fight first actually but either one is good with me. Charlo is good, I don't understand the problem. We all give Lara **** for doing absolutely nothing of note to get a fight with GGG so let's give some props to Charlo for moving up and getting himself mandated

 

GGG must face Saunders to be undisputed champion, then go for Charlo.

 

Because Golovkin is held to a HIGHER standard. He's crying when he should be proud. If Charlo starts to consistently fight these fights, then he deserves criticism.

 

No, he isn't

 

Wow
Nice summary