1974 George Foreman vs 2017 Anthony Joshua: Does Foreman make it to the finish line

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I always enjoy watching Foreman-Norton...one of my favorite ko's. You couldn't have picked a better example of a ko to blow your point away completely. Foreman would have ko'ed AJ as soon as he caught him and hurt him...and that would have happened at any time within the first 4 rounds.
     
  2. Eddie Ezzard

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    I would favour Foreman but cannot disagree with any of this except maybe the first para. Wlad of the AJ fight was in his 40s, ring rusty and coming off a loss to a largely unremarkable opponent in Fury. That cannot compare to beating Norton who, 4 years later, gave Larry Holmes all he could handle. Yes, he was cacking himself against George but that is a measure of Foreman, that he could do that to an opponent. It should be to his credit that he terrified otherwise sturdy men.

    But you're right to point out that George had flaws and that he never faced anyone with both Joshua's size and skill. But in the end it will come down to being a fight and I just don't see enough in AJ yet to suggest he would be able to use his skills to weather the kind of storm Foreman brings when that happens.
     
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  3. superman1986

    superman1986 Active Member banned Full Member

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    What I meant by that is if you look in enough corners and peel back enough onions, you can find fault with any champions opposition. For example, Norton was quickly starched by every big hitter he faced, in his prime and out of it. Roman was a modern day cruiser and not exactly the Evander Holyfield or Ezzard Charles of cruiser's either. Beating a 190ish Roman wasn't comparable to beating a 190 lb Holyfield or 185 lb Charles. Leading up to Fraizer and correct me if i'm wrong, but he hadn't beat a top 10 opponent. Ring Magazine had a list of all of the top 10 going into 1973 and Foreman hadn't demonstrated his power or even fought one of the top 10.

    My point in mentioning those wasn't to put down Foreman but to show that if we're being completely honest, no champion can escape criticism of his opposition. Wlad's opposition can be criticized, but so can Foreman's.
     
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  4. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think you can write Joshua off here.
    I'm no fanatic for the modern trend seemingly that size is everything, but you can't ignore the fact that Foreman would be fighting a man a couple of inches taller, 30 or so pounds heavier and outreached by 3 or 4 inches.
    On top of that he punches hard allied with decent skills.
    If he only had the size advantage but was some kind of plodding bum then fair enough Foreman obliterates him, but Joshua is a lot better than that.
    However the Foreman of the Frazier, Norton and Ali fights was simply an intimidating wrecking machine who I think would put Joshua size advantage or no size advantage on the back foot, I'm not so sure Joshua can fight from there.
    I'd take Foreman inside 5 or 6 rounds but if Joshua got past that it would be interesting.
     
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  5. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No one is writing Joshua off LONG TERM. He is an unwritten book and right now cannot be compared vs the prize winning novel that is Foreman.
     
  6. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well he has been written off by some on here getting blown away in 2 or 3 rounds!
    I agree though he's probably still a work in progress.
     
  7. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He would get blown away very quickly as he is today. He would be facing an ATG hwt champion. POSSIBLY over time AJ will prove himself. At that point once proven we could reassess his chances.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    I'd hardly call that writing him off tho. You picked Foreman in 5-6 yourself.
     
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  9. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2 or 3 rounds is a writing off!
    5 or 6 is more of a fight!
     
  10. heizenberg

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    I could see this one being a lot like Foreman and Lyle with them going back and forth possibly with knock downs. Like Lyle and Foreman I'd expect this one to end around the 5th and go no longer then 7 and like Lyle vs Foreman I'd look for Foreman to be the last one standing.
     
  11. Azzer85

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    You know your overrated when you've beat nobody of note but you can ko a prime George Foreman.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    LOL!!! He ko'd the much more proven ATG Frazier in 2 rounds and Norton in no time as well. He went hard and early up to and until Ali beat him. 2-3 rounds is perfectly defendable. He'd hurt him way earlier than Wlad did and not let him off the hook.
     
  13. superman1986

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    Anthony Joshua is better than Ron Lyle. Larger, quicker, more accurate and harder punching.
     
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  14. superman1986

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    I think Wlad is more someone of note than Shavers. As Shavers was (probably) the only top 10 heavyweight Lyle knocked out. Yet Lyle drug Foreman to hell and back.

    And I'd rate the version of Wlad AJ beat as equal (arguably superior) to the version of Fraizer that Foreman beat.

    I think stopping Wlad is more indicative of beating Foreman than beating Fraizer or Norton is indicative to beating a 240+ pound power puncher with quick hands.
     
  15. superman1986

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    Yeah but I'd pick AJ to KO Fraizer and Norton, too.