Why watch the same fights over and over again?

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Being a big Tyson fan as a youngster I always watched the Douglas fight over and over, I guess I was hoping I would eventually see another result.
     
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  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I get where you're coming from but I think I disagree with these analogies.

    The indie artist analogy would only work if we were talking about bypassing high-level fights to watch new prospects and unheralded club-level fighters at local shows. I think a more apt art-based analogy would be like regularly visiting great museums but only checking out the same small number of famous Monet, Picasso, and Van Gogh paintings, without ever branching out and exploring their "lesser works" or the works of other artists featured on the same walls and in the same exhibits. I guess it's fine, but you'd be missing out on a whole lot of great art, and your understanding of art would suffer for it (and for whatever it's worth, there are artists far less famous than Monet whose works I find more interesting and compelling, and in which I find just as much to "observe, appreciate, and learn from").

    And maybe I'm nitpicking but your description of "really good hip hop" seems like it would work much better as an analogy for fighters from the lowest weight classes who show dazzling technical skills and blazing hand and foot speed, instead of slugfests between bigger, slower, less skilled fighters, which seem to be the most rewatched fights. Just my gut reaction.
     
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  3. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Lol. What did you say Tyson did to you again?
     
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  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I gravitate toward the same thing but I still only watch these fights 2 or 3 times at most, usually. How often/how many times do you watch these fights? Just curious.
     
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  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Got beat by a journeyman, hero's aren't meant to lose like that.....
     
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  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Uh oh, ...you know what watching the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result each time is the definition of, don't you?
     
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  7. Thread Stealer

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    I watch a really good long fight in full usually 2 or 3 times. The first time live, and then I usually edit it to just the good parts.

    Then I'll watch the highlight reel, I don't know, maybe 3 times per year?

    I have hundreds of these fights on my media player.
     
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  8. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if you have to ask..
     
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  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Ah ok, that sounds like a middle ground between what I do and what other folks around here do.
     
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  10. alexland

    alexland student of the sweet science Full Member

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    most fights are not worth watching again; but a small fraction i can re-watch many times

    for the same reason that people re-read (some) novels by Don DeLillo or David Foster Wallace, or listen to a Bach sonata over and over again.

    i would guess that fighters like Roy Jones Jr, Alexis Arguello, GGG, for instance, would never consider themselves artists, but some forms of physical endeavor are clearly deemed artistic (eg, ballet), so why can't a great performance in the ring be considered works of art?

    sure boxing is extemporaneous, rather than scripted but so is jazz, so that's not a viable distinction, in my view.
     
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  11. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :risas3:
     
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  12. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sometimes its the drama in the corner between fighter and trainer that's the real interest. I once saw this fellow who had zero head movement. His manager kept patiently telling him to move his head round after round for most of the fight but to no avail.

    :headbash


    Finally losing his patience the frustrated manager angrily shouted:

    " Que muevas tu jodia *****cabeza. Entendistes ahora?"

    "Move your damned**** freaking head! Do you get it now?"

    Watching it again is like watching one of those Cid Caesar episodes again.
     
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  13. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    lol
     
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  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Really? This is fascinating to me. How many fights have you watched 20 or more times? How many have you watched 100 times? Which ones? How often do you watch them? 100 is a lot!

    Pretty sure the only things I've ever watched in full 20 or more times are music videos (when I was a kid), and certain movies I had on VHS back in college, when I didn't have cable.
     
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  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    By the way, how often do you rewatch fights from start to finish? Which ones have you seen more than 10 or 20 times?
     
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