RUSADA, the full story...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by thesmokingm, Aug 7, 2017.


  1. TKO6

    TKO6 Boxcar for life Full Member

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    It was a great watch and to actually doubt 90% of what he's saying knowing the facts and the circumstantial evidence with his colleagues dying I think is hard to do.

    Propaganda ... maybe but it's IMO pretty close to the truth.

    He gave up his family and life and money then blew the lid to save his life.
    He was proud and ashamed all at the same time thats what I took away from the documentary.
    There is nothing to gain from what he's done he's living in hiding why invent it for that life ?
     
  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see
     
  3. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Adding to that, everything is frozen, ie cold storage. This is standard practice as that's how they store blood/urine for a decade to retest later with new techniques. We see this in the fiasco with Armstrong's urine in 1999.
     
  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    People are in denial, they allow their nationality or their media to bias their opinion. It's not just a Russian problem, I think plenty of the people in the West are just as blinded by the propaganda fed to them by their governments and media outlets.
     
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  5. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Politics and sports are intertwined. You cant separate the two.

    Rodchenkov is not an honest man, he is deceitful. He is telling the Yanks what they want to hear. Rodchenkov has something coming to him.

    Rodchenkov is furthering his own career by telling lies against the Russians.
     
  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is some serious ****ing drivel man. Really, what career furthering is he looking forward to as he was THE head of the Moscow Labs. When he comes out from WITSEC in a decade, where the **** is he going to go again?
     
  7. Celestial gold

    Celestial gold Member banned Full Member

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  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Before I even read your reply I was about to say the same thing,propaganda re Russia is unreal with the U.K. And the US keeping it going,if you google in Bush jnr,Putin and Chinese leader in Freemason robes it's clear to see they're all in the same club anyway,it's just divide n conquer same as it's always been and the public buy this stuff as if the media wouldn't lie to us lol.
    Sure Russia had state sponsored doping so what?in the UK we have that upstanding Sebastian Coe taking all kinds of bribes around the Olympics and you telling me he had no idea what was going on.
    If folk were able to think critically about this stuff then maybe themed be asking the question about what on earth are the winners taking who beat these doped up Russians?
    Bradley Wiggins winning the tour and the Olympics in a year he'd been given TUEs,Mo Farah associated with Salazar and Galan Rupp and in the US Marion Jones,Lance Armstrong,Tyson Gay to name a few,sure when caught they'll get thrown under the bus by state and sponsors but you not telling me they don't know what's going on.
     
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  9. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They're all as bad as each other.
    I'm not into politics as they all lie but when Trump came out and said what the US have done under the term war is as bad as anyone he got vilified with fake patriots like John McCain trying to explain it away as the US being the good guys lol,like you say it's all propaganda and so many folk as claimed by an ex CIA agent are more dumbed down than ever,can't think for themselves and are totally reliant on government which is what they want.
     
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  10. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    He is furthering his own career by telling the Americans what they want to hear. He works for the Americans now, and the pay is obviously better. He was a wanted man in Russia before this whole thing went to catastrophic levels, so what better way to escape than to play buddy-buddy with the yanks. The man himself has had a career of corruption and doing things out of regulation, now we are all supposed to believe that the guy is honest and innocent? Come on man, I usually agree with you on many topics but this is the exception. Everything was orchestrated by the yanks, with the help of a few disgruntled RUSADA employees.
     
  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Furthering his own career, how is he doing that? He's in hiding, fears being assassinated, is separated from his wife and children. His families have had their assets taken and have had their passports taken and he'll likely never see them again.
     
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  12. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't even have words for the kind of bias delusion you are on.
     
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  13. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    He lives in the states, works for more money now. The guy was a wanted criminal in Russia before he left. Stop assuming he is innocent, benevolent and honest. I am sure the Russians were cheating, but there is propaganda and lies in there too. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
     
  14. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    The man was a wanted criminal in Russia before he escaped to the states. Last time I checked criminals are deceiving. Would you trust Rodchenkov?
     
  15. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No **** moron! He is a whistleblower, wtf do you think the Russians want him dead for? They want this guy 6ft under because he is the ****ing head of the Moscow Lab.
     
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