Well for one.. I still rate Postol as a solid win for Crawford, so that's a completely wrong. Contrary to what you might think I've never criticized Crawford or his opposition. Look at LM style for ****s sake it... If you understand anything about boxing and it's history you'd know it's not one that typically ages well- he also had the kind of wars that often decline a fighter in the Garcia and Molina fights and at his age and amount of fights it's perfectly possible.... Not to mention he outright QUIT in that fight, despite going to war with Garcia and Molina. He absorbed far more punishment and went down in those fights without quitting. So excuse me for thinking that he wasn't the same fighter anymore. You know, I was actually(and still am) a massive fan of his, and I'm speaking from the heart.. Not to passively aggressively defend another fighters resume.
I never gave Postol a chance against Crawford, knew Bud had way too much for him. I know you've tried to argue otherwise... But Crawford was a massive betting favorite. It was only a few vocal contrarians and some agenda driven trolls who gave Postol a real chance. Regardless.. Still a solid scalp over an undefeated fighter in a unification bout.
So after I type all that out, giving sound reasoning why LM was a faded fighter you respond with that? **** off.
Betting favorite means nothing. We're talking about this forum. Not talking about the usual suspects either. It was way closer than 50/50 than a fight Crawford was supposed to win.
I knew what you were going to say. Yes he took some wear and tear from John Molina. But he also just came off looking better than ever knocking Taylor out EASILY. No Taylor isn't elite but he's respectable. He's not even close to being faded or shot. Slightly faded sure. But not faded to the point where you question the outcome of this fight due to him going through those wars.
No it wasn't. This forum only represents a tiny portion of boxing fans.... The odds speak for themselves. Crawford was a massive favorite to win. Full stop. end of discussion.
I don't care about the odds said. On this forum is was 50/50 that's what I'm calling out. Now those who picked Postol are pulling your card out. Crawford was supposed to win doooe look at the odds!
I never said LM was shot... but he's clearly lost a few noticeable steps. As outlined in my post with sound reasoning. FYI was excited about the Taylor performance and am hoping LM can go another good run.
This forum isn't a good barometer for consensus reality. it's littered with trolls, alts etc. Dude just stop. Crawford was expected to win as evidenced by the odds.
Yes sure your post was reasonable, doesn't mean it's right. You haven't said enough to convince me, you didn't bring anything new to the table, everything you said I was aware of already. If Matthyse lost a step, it was by a tiny amount IMO at least. But anyways just curious who do you think out of Loma's resume has a better win than Matthyse.
Sure. But I'm calling out people on this FORUM for discrediting Postol now, not just any boxing fan. On this forum it was a 50/50 fight.
Why do disagree with it? Only because you want to boost Postols resume to tout it as a great win for Crawford. FFS. That's only ****ing reason you're arguing with me... It's still a good scalp, just not an elite one. I'm not going to get into a pissing contest regarding Lomachenko and Crawford, not on that train.... But I would definitely rate Walters over it.
I disagree with it to the extent you're trying to say it was. LMFAO WALTERS? WHO THE HELL HAS WALTERS BEAT? A shot to **** flyweight nonito who only beat guys he had a weight advantage over and was way smaller than Walters? You want to put Matthyse down for Molina and Ruslan, but what about Nonito getting totally outboxed by Darchinyan. What about Nonito lucking out against Veteyka with the cut? Who on Walters resume is a better win than Matthyse? If you said GRJ, I'd say sure, not on paper, but I can see why you'd think that. Walters the weight bully? No way. You're only saying that because you're a loma fanboy.
This is what you wanted and were trying to gear up for in several posts here.. Another separate argument/pissing contest that's irrelevant from the last one that's going to go several pages in circles. This is your modus operandi. If you want to think a war torn LM is a better win than an undefeated and prime Walters, then so be it... But going back to something you've said. A LOT of the usual suspects on here and the YTBC were picking Walters to win.