15-yo Mike Tyson bobbing and weaving with Teddy Atlas

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    The evidence is in the statements of anyone who knew Tyson at the time. There is literally no reason to doubt or dispute them. Few things more grating than dumb people who are smug because they think they're clever. But if you get joy out of polluting all the Tyson threads with your idiocy, carry on.
     
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  2. Unforgiven

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    Tyson looks pretty good for 51 years old nowadays. Usually he's looking pretty slim these days.
    Teddy Atlas hasn't aged as well.
     
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  3. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson made statements like he was going to eat people's children, don't believe everything you hear treacle. I want solid proof Kev, guess I'll be in for a long wait......
     
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  4. Wass1985

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    Steroids have a long lasting effect even after one has stopped training.
     
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  5. Unforgiven

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    Tyson was weighing 200 pounds just a few days after his 18th birthday when he faced Henry Tillman in the Olympics.

    It would be weird if he'd already weighed 190 or 200 at 12 years old and before undertaking all that hard training
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    That's 5 or 6 years of adolescence, and extensive training and being well fed by D'Amato and the nice old lady, and he hardly grew.

    If he was 200 at age 12 I'm guessing that's childhood obesity.

    I doubt he's much over 190 now!
     
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  6. Unforgiven

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    Well he looks pretty good whatever it is. Although I might not have seen the most up to date pictures. He was a real fat man at one stage but fixed himself up. I think he cited a vegan diet.

    Atlas hasn't been so disciplined. He was real skinny back in the day. He's moved up a few divisions.
     
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  7. Wass1985

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    Oops, myth well and truly busted......
     
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  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Would be unusual but not out of the question. Especially since Tyson fought at around 200lbs years before facing Tillman, and he already looked to be 190-200 in the training footage of him as a 15-year old. BTW, did he cut weight to stay under 201 as a teenage amateur?

    PS - I'd bet that Tyson is well over 190 now.
     
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  9. Wass1985

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    So there we have It, Tyson was a black Butterbean at 12 year old......
     
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  10. Mr.DagoWop

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    Tyson at 198.75 lbs.

    [url]http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/boxing-us-olympic-trials-mike-tyson-and-henry-tillman-in-ring-after-picture-id486247833?s=594x594[/url]

    Tyson at approximately 13 years of age

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    [url]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/13/article-1220014-00EF2BDF00000191-921_468x361.jpg[/url]

    [url]https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71IYUh54xLL.jpg[/url]

    Tyson was shorter than 5'10 at this point so I doubt he was 200. He looks much smaller than when he was at 198.75 lbs. I put the 13 year old at around 175-180 tops.
     
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  11. Wass1985

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    Game, set and match right there.
     
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  12. Sangria

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    A lot of bullies I grew up with were men by the age of 12. They hit puberty way before I did. But when they got older, the rest of us late bloomers caught up to them. So it's not out of the question that Tyson was 200 lbs at 13 years old.
     
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    Not out of the question but it's clear to see he wasn't......
     
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  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I could see him being in the 180s in the 13-year-old pics (not sure if he weighed more or less than that before Cus found him and got him doing roadwork and cardio but that's a minor aside). Either way, it's clear that he was a well-developed kid with extraordinary muscle development for his age before Cus had a chance to pump him with steroids (like the loonies in this thread think). That the 13-yo in those pics developed into the 15yo in the footage and the 17yo in the later picture isn't surprising at all, and doesn't require any weird steroid fantasies.
     
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  15. Mr.DagoWop

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    Yeah definitely.
     
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