David Tua vs Tony Galento

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  1. JackSilver

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    Drugs and drink.
     
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  2. It's Ovah

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    That's true. Both men had cement feet. Tua had significantly better handspeed however, along with better technique, better power, a better chin....
     
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  3. Seamus

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    Tua had far more disciplined footwork and much better balance. He pretty much exceeds in every department.
     
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  4. Radrook

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    Galento was also impulsively reckless. For example, during his fight with Louis he had been told to fight cautiously from a crouch. He succeeded in knocking Louis down while adhering to that advise then went wild and fought the rest of the bout in his usual daredevil wild manner and got knocked out.
     
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  5. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    For sure.
     
  6. Mr.DagoWop

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    Galento went down the same amount of times that Tua did and finished the Louis fight on his feet. The difference is Tua went down against a much worse fighter.

    Both could wallop and had knockout power. Who hit harder is honestly irrelevent. Tua wasn't a fast fighter and neither was Galento.

    Sheesh I feel like a parrot repeating this stuff over and over every time someone replies to my post in this thread.
     
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  7. janitor

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    Objectively Galento was a much more successful heavyweight than Tua, and Galento was not one of the best or brightest contenders of his era.

    That illustrates how overrated Tua is.

    I guess I will pick Tua, but I don't see it as being a clear cut deal.
     
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  8. JackSilver

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    How do you figure Galento was a much more successful heavyweight than Tua? Nether of them won the title so is it because Galento managed to knock down Louis?
     
  9. janitor

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    No, he just beat contenders with higher rankings, and attained higher rankings himself.
     
  10. mrkoolkevin

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    Easy. You just have to ignore the fact that Galento was battered and stopped by 168-lb 15-loss Al Gainer. And that he lost tp a 185-lb, 19-loss Eddie Mader (and later fought Mader to a draw). And that he fought 179-lb Al Delaney to a draw. And that he lost to a 13-loss 185-lb Patsy Perroni. And that he was stopped by a 21-loss Marty Gallagher. And that he was beat by a 16-loss 196-lber Bob Tow. And ignore his loss to 21-loss Ed Winston. And that he lost to 12-12, 182-lb Natie Brown. Then ignore everything you know about the size, skill, and talent of his other opponents relative to those of Tua and just evaluate them according to their Ring Magazine rankings. Voila.
     
  11. janitor

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    It is like this.

    You have one fighter who has few embarrassing losses, but beat nobody at world level.

    You have another who has many embarrassing losses, mainly early in his career, but who did actually beat a few world class opponents (I mean people who were somebody at the time).

    I would have to judge the latter fighter to have been more successful, despite his embarrassing losses.
     
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  12. NoNeck

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    Do you realize Tua knocked out a future lineal heavyweight champion, a former lineal heavyweight champion, an Olympic medalist, and a man who would beat a former lineal heavyweight champion twice, pre and post winning the title?

    This compared to Galento who beat Lou Nova via fouls and did what again?
     
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  13. janitor

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    The name men that Tua beat were all men who would be somebody in the future, or had been somebody in the past, but none of them was anybody at the time.

    It looks like an impressive list of names on paper, but it is not in context.

    Yes a win over the then #1 ranked Nova absolutely eclipses these wins.
     
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  14. It's Ovah

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    Galento was stopped six times. Tua was never stopped. There is NO debate who had the harder chin, and it's insulting you even tried.

    Tua is also clearly leagues above Galento in punch power, so much so that any argument on the issue would be a waste of time. You either see it or you don't.

    Regarding their speed, I've already mentioned that I agree that both had slow feet, though Tua's footwork and balance was superior, as was his sense of distance. Galento often lunged wildly or ended up smothering his own work, like an MMA fighter trying for a takedown against the ring sides and desperate not to give the other fighter manoeuvring space. Except Galento did it because he didn't know what he was doing.

    Their handspeed and technique is not even comparable. Tua is on film throwing three left hooks in under a second. What did Galento do in that vein?

    Rather than parrot the same nonsense ad infinitum, why not actually come to your senses and accept the obvious?
     
  15. It's Ovah

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    Tua knocked out Rahman who knocked out Lennox Lewis and Corrie Sanders.

    Tua knocked out Maskaev who knocked out Rahman and won the WBC.

    Tua knocked out Michael Moorer in one round who beat Holyfield and was comeback Foreman's greatest win.

    Tua knocked out Ruiz in one round who beat Holyfield twice and won the WBA.

    Tua fought Ike down to the wire and made him see demons.










    Galento knocked out....... Lou Nova.